Comments on: Amputation Fetishism

By: kola112

kola112 — Fri, 01 Apr 2011 15:40:52 +0000

Hello Allen Bellows my name is handy i saw the pictures of proshesis and i have the same problem how can i get the contact of the people that do this proshesis i look forward to your reply please..

Handy

By: ShowerRockGod

ShowerRockGod — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:57:31 +0000

First off, I never said I was a doctor. I simply know a bit about how amputation affects the body since I’ve had a brother and a grandmother that needed them. One for osteosarcoma and the other for diabetes. It’s not a decision any doctor should make lightly or a responsibility to be taken on a whim. It can be deadly.
Next, while most medical universities do not require the Hippocratic oath (which I assume you are referring to and admittedly the one I had in mind) many have a revised version that they have new doctors swear too. While these may vary in form and phrasing, all of them follow the spirit of the Hippocratic Oath. The argument I was making is that doctors should be held to these standards because we cannot afford as a society to let them lapse.

By: 1441

1441 — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:25:40 +0000

Shower Rock God….. How did I know you were NOT a doctor? You said if a doctor takes his “oath” seriosly….
doctors don’t take “OATHS”.. only NON-MD’s believe that one.

By: 1441

1441 — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:23:45 +0000

ShowerRockGod — What a pompous post! The post is not internally consistent. You parade like a doctor but I KNOW you are a nurse and a first class Baptist. Meet me in the Carribean for a little post doctoral brush up?
What’s the problem? Wannabee’s are not proposing YOUR body part be amputated are they?
Are you in charge of MY body parts?

By: 1441

1441 — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:08:48 +0000

OH yea I read the bullshit comments about dumping the leg by the road? …. gangrene…. bled to death…..
bogus stuff. A first year intern (not even a surgeon yet) could amputate any appendage with complete impunity.
Harvey Cushing was performing transphenoidal pitutitary ablation proceedures in 1898 and claiming a 98% success rate (probably not true more like 25%… :-) ) … This proceecure was performed without anesthesia or antibiotics. What’s the surgery? —- Brain surgery. Pituitary gland for acromegally.
All these alarmist comments are complete baloney. I have seen complete accidental amputations in cesspools, autorepair shops, people swimming and run over by boats, sharks, gorillas, chimanzees, animals.. ….. get a grip folks.
I guess the real proof is answering the question…… “any regrets”… (probably not)

By: 1441

1441 — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:52:06 +0000

Let’s just suppose: There was a surgeon who was willing to perform amputational proceedures on demand. What would Wannabee’s be willing to pay? This is a “supply and demmand” industry correct? To pay a surgeon adequately the Wannabee would need to pay for the surgeon’s time because the surgeon couldn’t really “set up shop”. A proceedure could only be performed about once a month because of the security problems. The Average surgeon makes about $250,000 so would the “Wannabee” be willing to pay $20,833 for the proceedure? How about $2,083 ? or $208?
The ethics of the situation mean nothing, and are not worth discussing. The request is from the patient.
The security is surmountable.
The usual proceedure ends with “I’m sorry we had to amputate…” With the Wannabee the endresult would be I please to inform you the level of amputation was exactly what we predicted and it was a complete success..
Where are all the retires surgeons who could make a nice living performing cosmetic surgery?
the answer is the surgery is more complicated than it appears.

By: ShowerRockGod

ShowerRockGod — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:53:15 +0000

A couple of things to respond to here.

Amputation and gender reassignment are NOT the same as cosmetic surgeries. Perhaps on a logical or emotional level you can equate them but not on a medical one. Cosmetic surgeries are performed on relatively unimportant areas of the body. Mortality rates from the myriad cosmetic surgeries vary but none exceed 0.2%. A transfemoral amputation (leg), carries with it a 40% mortality rate within the first 5 years. Granted those numbers may be somewhat skewed since most amputations are done out of medical necessity (i.e. there was already something wrong). However there is no denying that the strain on the body is far greater from amputation than a breast augmentation. Full gender reassignments are a conglomeration of medically risky procedures including hormone therapy, various genital surgeries, chest reconstruction, neck surgery (voice), and others that are more optional. A doctor who takes his oath seriously should be hard pressed to make a case for elective amputation.

I have sympathy for these people but eventually we have to balance what they want with what society needs. The time comes when we should ask if we want doctors to continue moving from “First do no harm” to “First make sure the check clears”.

Another note, I personally have no trouble responding to someone with a different belief system than me. Frankly I’m tired of anyone that expresses their belief in God getting flamed to a crisp here. All the guy did was respond honestly to the story. There’s no need to get huffy just because he happens to have a religion. There’s no difference between that attitude and the evangelists who tell strangers they’re going to Hell. It shows both intolerence and disrespect for others that borders on bigotry. Also, saying f*ck God is in bad taste and completely unneccessary. Change your ways or the flying spaghetti monster will grasp you all in his noodly tendrils and fling you into the simmering pot of everlasting tomato paste.

By: hazelambition330

hazelambition330 — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:00:53 +0000

OK, there’s been a lot of comparison with cosmetic surgery here, and I completely agree. Let’s say a woman wants to have breast enhancement surgery… She may choose to do this for several reasons, but it’s plausible to think that many women have had similar surgeries due to low self-esteem (a mental condition, if not really a disorder). So this woman feels bad about herself and desires the attention that more well-endowed women receive. So she subjects herself to a painful surgery and recovery to emerge feeling more complete and whole as a female. Now, is the doctor that performed the surgery doing something unethical? Certainly not by legal standards, otherwise cosmetic surgeries wouldn’t be as common as they are. How is wanting to remove a limb any different? A healthy person who doesn’t feel comfortable with the way their body looks and wishes to receive the attention that amputees do. It’s pretty much the same thing in my book. If the government wants to control it, just require a psych evaluation prior to the surgery, similar to cases of gender reassignment. That’s just my opinion…

By: Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but: — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:58:35 +0000

hmmm…. i always thought i’d be a REAL man if i had two penises (penis’?) heh heh jk

By: BenKinsey

BenKinsey — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:37:40 +0000

As long as it doesn’t affect the general population’s health insurance rates in a negative way then I, personally, am not concerned. Although I would love to hear the thoughts of a person who was born without an extremidy and/or someone who lost a body part. Are you offended by what they are doing? Do you think the people with BIID are wrong for getting these surgeries done? Maybe someday technology would allow people who don’t want a leg, for instance, to give it to someone born without one or a person who had an leg amputation due to an accident. A win-win future.