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		<title>By: DanThinksDances&#38;femaleGspot</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/cold-power/#comment-22662</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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[quote]jottoh said: &quot;I visited an OTEC plant in Hawaii many years ago and it had all these latest benefits and more. It was struggling for funding despite all the wonderful benefits the project reaped. So …I don&#039;t get it….what is John Piña Craven offering with this &quot;new&quot;idea? Perhaps he originally inspired the Hawaii OTEC project? Perhaps he is the latest contribuor in an effort to get this decade (or more) already established principle rolling? Please excuse me if I sound bewildered here but I feel that the hard working souls in Hawaii need more credit for all they have contributed.&quot;[/quote]


ANSWER:  The visionary person at the head gets credit.  At award cerimonies this person then credit the actual workers.

This is good stuff.  I love people that have such cheap practical simple solutions.</description>
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<p>[quote]jottoh said: &#8220;I visited an OTEC plant in Hawaii many years ago and it had all these latest benefits and more. It was struggling for funding despite all the wonderful benefits the project reaped. So …I don&#8217;t get it….what is John Piña Craven offering with this &#8220;new&#8221;idea? Perhaps he originally inspired the Hawaii OTEC project? Perhaps he is the latest contribuor in an effort to get this decade (or more) already established principle rolling? Please excuse me if I sound bewildered here but I feel that the hard working souls in Hawaii need more credit for all they have contributed.&#8221;[/quote]</p>
<p>ANSWER:  The visionary person at the head gets credit.  At award cerimonies this person then credit the actual workers.</p>
<p>This is good stuff.  I love people that have such cheap practical simple solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey93</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/cold-power/#comment-13395</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wouldn&#039;t say Toronto uses it for ALL their downtown buildings.  I believe it&#039;s one large office tower and possibly one or two smaller nearby buildings.  They are looking at expanding it to more, from what I understand.  Less energy used for Air Conditioning would do Toronto well, bit of an energy problem up here.  Might be why we&#039;re building more Nuclear plants soon.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Not sure how the drinking water would work...I mean...coming out of the bottom of Lake Ontario...it&#039;s at least fresh water...not so clean, I&#039;d drink it...but probably wouldn&#039;t want to everyday of my life.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say Toronto uses it for ALL their downtown buildings.  I believe it&#8217;s one large office tower and possibly one or two smaller nearby buildings.  They are looking at expanding it to more, from what I understand.  Less energy used for Air Conditioning would do Toronto well, bit of an energy problem up here.  Might be why we&#8217;re building more Nuclear plants soon.</p>
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<p>Not sure how the drinking water would work&#8230;I mean&#8230;coming out of the bottom of Lake Ontario&#8230;it&#8217;s at least fresh water&#8230;not so clean, I&#8217;d drink it&#8230;but probably wouldn&#8217;t want to everyday of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: kgy121</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/cold-power/#comment-12458</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&#039;quote&#039;&gt;cosyCloud said: &quot;Great article. Just one thing though … the lake in Toronto that they use is Lake Ontario.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&#039;quote&#039;&gt;
Alan Bellows said: &quot;D&#039;oh! You&#039;re right. I knew that, I just typed the wrong thing. I&#039;ll fix the article, but these comments will be here to record my numbskullery for posterity.

Thanks for pointing that out.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;

So the fact that you can&#039;t edit comments DOES serve a purpose.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='quote'>cosyCloud said: &#8220;Great article. Just one thing though … the lake in Toronto that they use is Lake Ontario.&#8221;</span></p>
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Alan Bellows said: &#8220;D&#8217;oh! You&#8217;re right. I knew that, I just typed the wrong thing. I&#8217;ll fix the article, but these comments will be here to record my numbskullery for posterity.</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing that out.&#8221;</span></p>
<p>So the fact that you can&#8217;t edit comments DOES serve a purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: me09</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/cold-power/#comment-10534</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;will water be pricey after this?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Rinson Drei</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/cold-power/#comment-6955</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 20:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A homeowner can also do this with a closed-loop groundwater system. Pull cold water up, use it to pre-cool/heat air entering your heat pump, use to condense water or whatever, and pump back into ground on the opposite side of the property. Since it&#039;s a closed loop, the power needed is a fraction of what it would take to pump it up without return, and the water would improve efficiency in summer and winter.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A homeowner can also do this with a closed-loop groundwater system. Pull cold water up, use it to pre-cool/heat air entering your heat pump, use to condense water or whatever, and pump back into ground on the opposite side of the property. Since it&#8217;s a closed loop, the power needed is a fraction of what it would take to pump it up without return, and the water would improve efficiency in summer and winter.</p>
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		<title>By: jottoh</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I visited an OTEC plant in Hawaii many years ago and it had all these latest benefits and more. It was struggling for funding despite all the wonderful benefits the project reaped. So ...I don&#039;t get it....what is John Piña Craven offering with this &quot;new&quot;idea? Perhaps he originally inspired the Hawaii OTEC project?  Perhaps he is the latest  contribuor in an effort to get this decade (or more) already established principle rolling? Please excuse me if I sound bewildered here but I feel that the hard working souls in Hawaii need more credit for all they have contributed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I visited an OTEC plant in Hawaii many years ago and it had all these latest benefits and more. It was struggling for funding despite all the wonderful benefits the project reaped. So &#8230;I don&#8217;t get it&#8230;.what is John Piña Craven offering with this &#8220;new&#8221;idea? Perhaps he originally inspired the Hawaii OTEC project?  Perhaps he is the latest  contribuor in an effort to get this decade (or more) already established principle rolling? Please excuse me if I sound bewildered here but I feel that the hard working souls in Hawaii need more credit for all they have contributed.</p>
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		<title>By: braindead</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/cold-power/#comment-369</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So all condensation is clean drinking water?  Wouldn&#039;t the water dripping from the pipes need to be filtered before consumption?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Isn&#039;t this basically like geothermal technology?  Quite expensive, and still requires a compressor to run.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So all condensation is clean drinking water?  Wouldn&#8217;t the water dripping from the pipes need to be filtered before consumption?</p>
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Isn&#8217;t this basically like geothermal technology?  Quite expensive, and still requires a compressor to run.  </p>
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		<title>By: cosyCloud</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/cold-power/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>cosyCloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 17:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No Problem :-) As a proud Canadian it is my personal mission to correct every Canada related fact I find on the  web.  (No not really - lol)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Problem :-) As a proud Canadian it is my personal mission to correct every Canada related fact I find on the  web.  (No not really &#8211; lol)</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Bellows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Bellows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 16:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&#039;quote&#039;&gt;cosyCloud said: &quot;Great article. Just one thing though … the lake in Toronto that they use is Lake Ontario.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;D&#039;oh!  You&#039;re right.  I knew that, I just typed the wrong thing.  I&#039;ll fix the article, but these comments will be here to record my numbskullery for posterity.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks for pointing that out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='quote'>cosyCloud said: &#8220;Great article. Just one thing though … the lake in Toronto that they use is Lake Ontario.&#8221;</span></p>
<p>D&#8217;oh!  You&#8217;re right.  I knew that, I just typed the wrong thing.  I&#8217;ll fix the article, but these comments will be here to record my numbskullery for posterity.</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing that out.</p>
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		<title>By: cosyCloud</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/cold-power/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>cosyCloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 16:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great article. Just one thing though ... the lake in Toronto that they use is Lake Ontario.
http://www.enwave.com/enwave/view.asp?/dlwc/energy&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. Just one thing though &#8230; the lake in Toronto that they use is Lake Ontario.<br />
<a href="http://www.enwave.com/enwave/view.asp?/dlwc/energy" rel="nofollow">http://www.enwave.com/enwave/view.asp?/dlwc/energy</a></p>
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