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		<title>By: aSmego</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 21:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kid of 1963 said: I would like to know if the West Ford Project has anything to do, technically, with the launching of chemtrails by stratotankers since 1998 by the US army (trails of chemical gases made of berilium and aluminum)

those are actually test to produce/control weather.. as in rain storms over parched land... there are also test going on to see if certain gases in bulk in the atmosphere have any control over the green house effect and our ozone layer. cant say how i know or can verify this information... but none the less, very neat. 

those small needles of copper, pure copper, would do something very interesting with any moisture in the lower atmosphere... but thats a whole nother story. those needles are also actively impacting ISS. wonder how thats going&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kid of 1963 said: I would like to know if the West Ford Project has anything to do, technically, with the launching of chemtrails by stratotankers since 1998 by the US army (trails of chemical gases made of berilium and aluminum)</p>
<p>those are actually test to produce/control weather.. as in rain storms over parched land&#8230; there are also test going on to see if certain gases in bulk in the atmosphere have any control over the green house effect and our ozone layer. cant say how i know or can verify this information&#8230; but none the less, very neat. </p>
<p>those small needles of copper, pure copper, would do something very interesting with any moisture in the lower atmosphere&#8230; but thats a whole nother story. those needles are also actively impacting ISS. wonder how thats going&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: prower</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall hearing about Project West Ford in 1962 or 1963. I was working at Arthur D. Little, Inc. (Bldg. 15 - metallurgical group headed by Dick Davis) and attended a talk given by engineers from MIT-Lincoln Lab(?) about this project. My reaction was outrage. I asked what might happen to a ship, or worse still a man in a space-suit, if a clump of this trash was on an intersecting orbit. This question was met with near derision. The concept of what was to become EVA hadn&#039;t been figured in. So much for the imagination, and responsibility, of some of our leading engineering/military thinkers. Only now is serious consideration being given to cleaning up all manner of debris in long lived orbits. Project West Ford was a testament to the bovine stupidity of certain sections of the science/military alliance that prevailed in those benighted years. Is that sort of thinking still prevalent? A rhetorical question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall hearing about Project West Ford in 1962 or 1963. I was working at Arthur D. Little, Inc. (Bldg. 15 &#8211; metallurgical group headed by Dick Davis) and attended a talk given by engineers from MIT-Lincoln Lab(?) about this project. My reaction was outrage. I asked what might happen to a ship, or worse still a man in a space-suit, if a clump of this trash was on an intersecting orbit. This question was met with near derision. The concept of what was to become EVA hadn&#8217;t been figured in. So much for the imagination, and responsibility, of some of our leading engineering/military thinkers. Only now is serious consideration being given to cleaning up all manner of debris in long lived orbits. Project West Ford was a testament to the bovine stupidity of certain sections of the science/military alliance that prevailed in those benighted years. Is that sort of thinking still prevalent? A rhetorical question.</p>
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		<title>By: shideg</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devices have ANTENNAS. Bugs have antennae.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devices have ANTENNAS. Bugs have antennae.</p>
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		<title>By: Mirage_GSM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mirage_GSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comprendo su lengua también.
What I don&#039;t understand is your reason for posting this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comprendo su lengua también.<br />
What I don&#8217;t understand is your reason for posting this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: carola</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>son todos ultra graciosos.... por suerte en nuestros paises no nos hace falta saber como se llaman las agencias de inteligencia ni cuantas armas tiene nuestro gobierno porque no andamos con tremenda paranoia de que el resto de los paises del mundo un buen dia nos ataquen y nos hagan la guerra... no tenemos miedo a que se nos estrellen aviones en nuestros edificios ni tenemos miedo de que nos invadan... tampoco es nuestra responsabilidad la muerte de miles de personas al otro lado del mundo solo por buscar petroleo... asi que cool . felices y aventurados los que no saben de sus agencias de inteligencia.
And we also know your language, so we can understand what you say! kisses!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>son todos ultra graciosos&#8230;. por suerte en nuestros paises no nos hace falta saber como se llaman las agencias de inteligencia ni cuantas armas tiene nuestro gobierno porque no andamos con tremenda paranoia de que el resto de los paises del mundo un buen dia nos ataquen y nos hagan la guerra&#8230; no tenemos miedo a que se nos estrellen aviones en nuestros edificios ni tenemos miedo de que nos invadan&#8230; tampoco es nuestra responsabilidad la muerte de miles de personas al otro lado del mundo solo por buscar petroleo&#8230; asi que cool . felices y aventurados los que no saben de sus agencias de inteligencia.<br />
And we also know your language, so we can understand what you say! kisses!</p>
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		<title>By: cinndave</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I live in Westford, Massachusetts. I wonder if this was named after my boring-ass suburban town. It&#039;s about an hour away from Millstone Hill, Massachusetts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I live in Westford, Massachusetts. I wonder if this was named after my boring-ass suburban town. It&#8217;s about an hour away from Millstone Hill, Massachusetts.</p>
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		<title>By: chronoso</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]swolfaz said: &quot;I dont believe there were any satellites in the sky in 1963.&quot;[/quote]

i have registered just so i can post this:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstar_1

aaand this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explorer_1

oh, and this too, in case everyone forgot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_program</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]swolfaz said: &#8220;I dont believe there were any satellites in the sky in 1963.&#8221;[/quote]</p>
<p>i have registered just so i can post this:  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstar_1" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstar_1</a></p>
<p>aaand this <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explorer_1" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explorer_1</a></p>
<p>oh, and this too, in case everyone forgot: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_program" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_program</a></p>
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		<title>By: FireDude</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&#039;quote&#039;&gt;Ironclaw said: &quot;True - but you have two wonderful factors working for you.. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
I thought a22042 was going to cover how these two points are wrong, but I guess not.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&#039;quote&#039;&gt;a) the density of the atmosphere varies with distance from the earth  (so it slows gradually as the air density builds up - thus it doesn&#039;t immediately generate a ton of heat)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Actually, since the density high up is much lower, it would initially fall much faster since it will quite rapidly reach terminal velocity.  At terminal velocity, change in gravitational potential energy exactly matches the viscous drag dissipation, and thus falling faster though the initially less dense air means it would &quot;immediately generate a ton of heat&quot; if it ever would.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&#039;quote&#039;&gt;b) Copper is one of the BEST heat conductors available and thus would tend to shed its heat quickly to the surrounding (quite cold) enviroment. Factor in its surface area to volume ratio - and I believe what I read - that the wouldnt burn up.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Copper is a good conductor, so all the copper would be at the same temperature.  Air is a terible conductor, so it won&#039;t conduct heat away from the copper very quickly.  If the copper can&#039;t reject heat into its environment, it will get hotter.  It&#039;s own conductivity has nothing to do with its surface temperature.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the end, these would never burn up because they are really freakin&#039; small.  Think about how slowly a hair falls to the ground, or if you have a dog or cat, the cloud of fur that hangs around them after you pet them.  These bad boys will never get up enough speed to generate any significant heat.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='quote'>Ironclaw said: &#8220;True &#8211; but you have two wonderful factors working for you.. </span></p>
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I thought a22042 was going to cover how these two points are wrong, but I guess not.</p>
<p><span class='quote'>a) the density of the atmosphere varies with distance from the earth  (so it slows gradually as the air density builds up &#8211; thus it doesn&#8217;t immediately generate a ton of heat)</span></p>
<p>Actually, since the density high up is much lower, it would initially fall much faster since it will quite rapidly reach terminal velocity.  At terminal velocity, change in gravitational potential energy exactly matches the viscous drag dissipation, and thus falling faster though the initially less dense air means it would &#8220;immediately generate a ton of heat&#8221; if it ever would.</p>
<p><span class='quote'>b) Copper is one of the BEST heat conductors available and thus would tend to shed its heat quickly to the surrounding (quite cold) enviroment. Factor in its surface area to volume ratio &#8211; and I believe what I read &#8211; that the wouldnt burn up.&#8221;</span></p>
<p>Copper is a good conductor, so all the copper would be at the same temperature.  Air is a terible conductor, so it won&#8217;t conduct heat away from the copper very quickly.  If the copper can&#8217;t reject heat into its environment, it will get hotter.  It&#8217;s own conductivity has nothing to do with its surface temperature.</p>
<p>In the end, these would never burn up because they are really freakin&#8217; small.  Think about how slowly a hair falls to the ground, or if you have a dog or cat, the cloud of fur that hangs around them after you pet them.  These bad boys will never get up enough speed to generate any significant heat.</p>
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		<title>By: swolfaz</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 00:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&#039;quote&#039;&gt;XJ076A said: &quot;what if some of those needles would hit something altering their orbit. i know they probably took it in their calculations when they did this but would the needles if there&#039;s enough cause any real damage to nearby satellites if this did happen?&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
I dont believe there were any satellites in the sky in 1963.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='quote'>XJ076A said: &#8220;what if some of those needles would hit something altering their orbit. i know they probably took it in their calculations when they did this but would the needles if there&#8217;s enough cause any real damage to nearby satellites if this did happen?&#8221;</span></p>
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I dont believe there were any satellites in the sky in 1963.</p>
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		<title>By: kid of 1963</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 23:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;July 4 2006&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Kid of 1963&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;From my research, some of the copper needles (dipoles) where sent from Quebec, army base of Valcartier, using two decker rockets called Black Brent. So Canada was part of the West Ford Project. In the same years, a young engineer from Moncton (Chapman)  was working on the project of geostationary satellites, Alouette I and Alouette II, Anik I and Anik B. I am not sure, but I recall the first launching of dipoles from Quebec as far back as 1962.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Canada has always been number one in world telecom, especially for circumpolar global telecommunication. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I would like to know if the West Ford Project has anything to do, technically, with the launching of chemtrails by stratotankers since 1998 by the US army (trails of chemical gases made of berilium and aluminum).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>July 4 2006</p>
<p>Kid of 1963</p>
<p>From my research, some of the copper needles (dipoles) where sent from Quebec, army base of Valcartier, using two decker rockets called Black Brent. So Canada was part of the West Ford Project. In the same years, a young engineer from Moncton (Chapman)  was working on the project of geostationary satellites, Alouette I and Alouette II, Anik I and Anik B. I am not sure, but I recall the first launching of dipoles from Quebec as far back as 1962.</p>
<p>Canada has always been number one in world telecom, especially for circumpolar global telecommunication. </p>
<p>I would like to know if the West Ford Project has anything to do, technically, with the launching of chemtrails by stratotankers since 1998 by the US army (trails of chemical gases made of berilium and aluminum).</p>
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