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		<title>By: jackmagic</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/express-elevator-to-space-going-up#comment-25478</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea has been familiar to me for ages, and it is facinating to think of the possibilities. We would be able to harvest the asteroid fields for water and materials very easily - and it would also be the ideal way to springboard futher explorations of the solar system. 

Being stuck at the bottom of a gravity well is a little restricting, and in response to the comment about looking after our planet first - im sure that job would be much easier with the cheap reasources that the solar system could offer us, and space based research would potentially offer useful new technologies! like phasers! or not, as the case may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea has been familiar to me for ages, and it is facinating to think of the possibilities. We would be able to harvest the asteroid fields for water and materials very easily &#8211; and it would also be the ideal way to springboard futher explorations of the solar system. </p>
<p>Being stuck at the bottom of a gravity well is a little restricting, and in response to the comment about looking after our planet first &#8211; im sure that job would be much easier with the cheap reasources that the solar system could offer us, and space based research would potentially offer useful new technologies! like phasers! or not, as the case may be.</p>
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		<title>By: SKBarry</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/express-elevator-to-space-going-up#comment-24973</link>
		<dc:creator>SKBarry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depending on which scale you use my IQ is either 148 or 139 so I suppose that either makes me especially competent to enter into this discussion or to realize I don&#039;t know enough to have anything to say . . . I&#039;m going with (b). I find it fascinating to consider how we might be in a position to leave the earth for almost any purpose but I am somewhat saddened to think that we might be doing it because we have given up on our planet. I would much prefer that we try both, i.e. going other places _and_ dealing with our problems here. I&#039;m not a big fan of small, enclosed places but I would be more than happy to take a very, very long elevator ride to get into space.

Very much enjoyed the discussion around this article, even the silly ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depending on which scale you use my IQ is either 148 or 139 so I suppose that either makes me especially competent to enter into this discussion or to realize I don&#8217;t know enough to have anything to say . . . I&#8217;m going with (b). I find it fascinating to consider how we might be in a position to leave the earth for almost any purpose but I am somewhat saddened to think that we might be doing it because we have given up on our planet. I would much prefer that we try both, i.e. going other places _and_ dealing with our problems here. I&#8217;m not a big fan of small, enclosed places but I would be more than happy to take a very, very long elevator ride to get into space.</p>
<p>Very much enjoyed the discussion around this article, even the silly ones.</p>
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		<title>By: DumbGuy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 12:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha, good point ValiantDefender *gets camera ready* 

The problem i think is that people are using theories, calculations and all kinds of new (nano) and other types of technology to make this elevator work (i won&#039;t bore you with my lack of extensive knowledge on therse things, i don&#039;t know my IQ because i believe their results only show how well that person can do in IQ testing, real life is never about your Intelligence Quotient but more about the wisdom in using what intelligence you have correctly).

Laugh with me on this one, but old tricks are the best tricks, why not use a bigger/better/scientifically-enhanced/more rubbery material and construct a giant slingshot and all the space cadets can &#039;shoot up&#039; without worrying about snow, frost, and orbital whatever-those-forces are. By now we should have had a lunar liftoff station, yes i mentioned lunar as opposed to sayng &#039;a station on the moon&#039;, shoot the cadets up in a transportable &#039;projectile&#039; that can be caught or land without killing everybody in it, they jump into space from our lunar base, since its liftoff issues would probably cost next to nothing with our rocket/fuel system and go fix up a planet for us to live in while we carry on stuffing this one up...sorted.

thought-provoking article though...well done</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha, good point ValiantDefender *gets camera ready* </p>
<p>The problem i think is that people are using theories, calculations and all kinds of new (nano) and other types of technology to make this elevator work (i won&#8217;t bore you with my lack of extensive knowledge on therse things, i don&#8217;t know my IQ because i believe their results only show how well that person can do in IQ testing, real life is never about your Intelligence Quotient but more about the wisdom in using what intelligence you have correctly).</p>
<p>Laugh with me on this one, but old tricks are the best tricks, why not use a bigger/better/scientifically-enhanced/more rubbery material and construct a giant slingshot and all the space cadets can &#8217;shoot up&#8217; without worrying about snow, frost, and orbital whatever-those-forces are. By now we should have had a lunar liftoff station, yes i mentioned lunar as opposed to sayng &#8216;a station on the moon&#8217;, shoot the cadets up in a transportable &#8216;projectile&#8217; that can be caught or land without killing everybody in it, they jump into space from our lunar base, since its liftoff issues would probably cost next to nothing with our rocket/fuel system and go fix up a planet for us to live in while we carry on stuffing this one up&#8230;sorted.</p>
<p>thought-provoking article though&#8230;well done</p>
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		<title>By: ValiantDefender</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/express-elevator-to-space-going-up#comment-23825</link>
		<dc:creator>ValiantDefender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this site.  Too bad I caught it years after the wave.  Anyway...DI article.  

The whole idea makes my skin crawl.   I didn&#039;t like the sensation of being on the Seattle Space Needle let alone an elevator to space.Yuck.

Just another name, I have an IQ of 143  :D  1 point from &quot;genius&quot; level  *weep*

I feel like I&#039;m time traveling.  
NaughtyHorse from 2006 - Calm down  ;)
I had the same initial reaction but I can see the math working now as i understand that the cable would have to be much further out  than the GS line (geosynchronous orbit) and a weight on the end.   A miscalculation could mean that our anchor tears free of the earth and flies off into space - Yes!

My new concerns are these.
1) How would you ever get enough grip on this cable to lift anything of significance up? Any accidental lubricant (ice sounds probable) and you could be in dire straights really fast.

2) By Newtons laws, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.  So, if this mad scheme works, and the force being used (centrifical) would have a force acting against it...essentially slowing down the spin (our rotation).  I won&#039;t pretend to have the equations necessary so this could be a VERY insignificant amount.  The moon&#039;s pull on the tides is slowing us and the moon down anyway.

3) have you heard of the tower of babel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this site.  Too bad I caught it years after the wave.  Anyway&#8230;DI article.  </p>
<p>The whole idea makes my skin crawl.   I didn&#8217;t like the sensation of being on the Seattle Space Needle let alone an elevator to space.Yuck.</p>
<p>Just another name, I have an IQ of 143  :D  1 point from &#8220;genius&#8221; level  *weep*</p>
<p>I feel like I&#8217;m time traveling.<br />
NaughtyHorse from 2006 &#8211; Calm down  ;)<br />
I had the same initial reaction but I can see the math working now as i understand that the cable would have to be much further out  than the GS line (geosynchronous orbit) and a weight on the end.   A miscalculation could mean that our anchor tears free of the earth and flies off into space &#8211; Yes!</p>
<p>My new concerns are these.<br />
1) How would you ever get enough grip on this cable to lift anything of significance up? Any accidental lubricant (ice sounds probable) and you could be in dire straights really fast.</p>
<p>2) By Newtons laws, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.  So, if this mad scheme works, and the force being used (centrifical) would have a force acting against it&#8230;essentially slowing down the spin (our rotation).  I won&#8217;t pretend to have the equations necessary so this could be a VERY insignificant amount.  The moon&#8217;s pull on the tides is slowing us and the moon down anyway.</p>
<p>3) have you heard of the tower of babel?</p>
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		<title>By: Mostly Harmless</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/express-elevator-to-space-going-up#comment-23070</link>
		<dc:creator>Mostly Harmless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Down&#039;s nice.&quot;
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Hopefully someone, someday will get my Hitchhiker&#039;s jokes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Down&#8217;s nice.&#8221;<br />
Had to say it.<br />
Hopefully someone, someday will get my Hitchhiker&#8217;s jokes.</p>
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		<title>By: DanThinksDances&#38;femaleGspot</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enter your reply text here.  OK

Bryan Lowder #3 October 31st, 2005 4:29 pm     my neurons are active but your comments are confusing.

[quote]Alchemist said: &quot;Total total crap. I do nanotech, and nanotubes are not going to make this work, no mater how cool they are. (Nor will the flesh eating nanobots run amok). You&#039;ll also need anchors… MASSIVE anchors at both ends or a very rigid structure. Not … going … to … work…&quot;[/quote]

Yea just tell people they are limited and can&#039;t.

Great story.  Remember people the details are from &quot;wiki&quot; and problobly wrong.
I am sure that the top of our atmosphere at sub orbit is 100 miles.</description>
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<p>Bryan Lowder #3 October 31st, 2005 4:29 pm     my neurons are active but your comments are confusing.</p>
<p>[quote]Alchemist said: &#8220;Total total crap. I do nanotech, and nanotubes are not going to make this work, no mater how cool they are. (Nor will the flesh eating nanobots run amok). You&#8217;ll also need anchors… MASSIVE anchors at both ends or a very rigid structure. Not … going … to … work…&#8221;[/quote]</p>
<p>Yea just tell people they are limited and can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Great story.  Remember people the details are from &#8220;wiki&#8221; and problobly wrong.<br />
I am sure that the top of our atmosphere at sub orbit is 100 miles.</p>
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		<title>By: Kd5rax</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/express-elevator-to-space-going-up#comment-20822</link>
		<dc:creator>Kd5rax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]JustAnotherName said: &quot;Hi. I have an IQ of 131. Enuff sed. &quot;[/quote]

Ummmm, yeah...  I know almost no one-else will read this but, uhhh...  Are we supposed to be impressed or something?  131 is not even high enough for Mensa.  Oooohh, I have an above average intelligence and an over-inflated ego.  If all Jehova&#039;s witnesses are that full of themselves, no wonder they get turned away.  I never thought IQ was a good indicator of intelligence anyway, and that guy just keeps confirming my bias.

I personally have always loved the concept of space elevators, but have never seen any real reason to dedicate that much time and resource into it...  Should&#039;nt we be trying to improve our planet that is habitable and where life is self sustaining than send our resources into space where it all becomes unreplenishable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]JustAnotherName said: &#8220;Hi. I have an IQ of 131. Enuff sed. &#8220;[/quote]</p>
<p>Ummmm, yeah&#8230;  I know almost no one-else will read this but, uhhh&#8230;  Are we supposed to be impressed or something?  131 is not even high enough for Mensa.  Oooohh, I have an above average intelligence and an over-inflated ego.  If all Jehova&#8217;s witnesses are that full of themselves, no wonder they get turned away.  I never thought IQ was a good indicator of intelligence anyway, and that guy just keeps confirming my bias.</p>
<p>I personally have always loved the concept of space elevators, but have never seen any real reason to dedicate that much time and resource into it&#8230;  Should&#8217;nt we be trying to improve our planet that is habitable and where life is self sustaining than send our resources into space where it all becomes unreplenishable?</p>
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		<title>By: Cloudshadow</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going Up....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going Up&#8230;.</p>
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