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		<title>By: BostonBakedBean</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fukashima...the new winner in Nuclear Disasters.</description>
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		<title>By: angryratman</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In their haste to begin production, Soviet engineers lacked the time to establish proper waste-handling procedures&quot;

Sounds like where I work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In their haste to begin production, Soviet engineers lacked the time to establish proper waste-handling procedures&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds like where I work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: U-530</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 03:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If&quot;... How I hate the very word. 
I&#039;m an ordinary seaman. I&#039;m spending my small vacation looking with hope and sadness at the never changing list of articles at &quot;Damninteresting&quot;.
I never cease to wonder at what kind of monstrous greed rules the world. An atomic vessel or sub can cruise for months in the open sea without bothering about the fuel. 
Imagine just four atomic passenger subs cruising between Canada and USSR. The tickets could cost 0 bucks 50 cents or something around this amount from my calculations. 
Archangelsk could be the seaport to operate with such kind of vessels. Besides, what could be more fun than a deep-sea excursion on a high-speed sub...
Yet, the ever-insatiable military forces of our countries do not see they could benefit from such a project. They would never let it happen. And we, having all these powers, have to pay a round sum for the air tickets. By the way, atomic airfleets seem to have the same fate... How sad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If&#8221;&#8230; How I hate the very word.<br />
I&#8217;m an ordinary seaman. I&#8217;m spending my small vacation looking with hope and sadness at the never changing list of articles at &#8220;Damninteresting&#8221;.<br />
I never cease to wonder at what kind of monstrous greed rules the world. An atomic vessel or sub can cruise for months in the open sea without bothering about the fuel.<br />
Imagine just four atomic passenger subs cruising between Canada and USSR. The tickets could cost 0 bucks 50 cents or something around this amount from my calculations.<br />
Archangelsk could be the seaport to operate with such kind of vessels. Besides, what could be more fun than a deep-sea excursion on a high-speed sub&#8230;<br />
Yet, the ever-insatiable military forces of our countries do not see they could benefit from such a project. They would never let it happen. And we, having all these powers, have to pay a round sum for the air tickets. By the way, atomic airfleets seem to have the same fate&#8230; How sad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: molfluon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]TwicKeR said: &quot;Mmm, I should also mention that basic logic would tell us that if the previously used nuclear bombs infected such a huge area with radiation, their massive amounts of waste could never be contained safely diluted in a small lake.  I&#039;m not so sure the Americans are to blame here.&quot;[/quote]

They knew something like this would likely happen. They just didn&#039;t care. All that mattered was getting atom bombs asap. If you read a bit of Soviet history you&#039;ll find out they were staggeringly ruthless and had a total disregard of individuals.</description>
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<p>They knew something like this would likely happen. They just didn&#8217;t care. All that mattered was getting atom bombs asap. If you read a bit of Soviet history you&#8217;ll find out they were staggeringly ruthless and had a total disregard of individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: TwicKeR</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmm, I should also mention that basic logic would tell us that if the previously used nuclear bombs infected such a huge area with radiation, their massive amounts of waste could never be contained safely diluted in a small lake.  I&#039;m not so sure the Americans are to blame here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm, I should also mention that basic logic would tell us that if the previously used nuclear bombs infected such a huge area with radiation, their massive amounts of waste could never be contained safely diluted in a small lake.  I&#8217;m not so sure the Americans are to blame here.</p>
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		<title>By: TwicKeR</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]William Butcher Cutting said: &quot;Good bit of news on a covered up tragedy and I enjoyed it, thanks, BUT lets lay blame for this madness where it deserves to be, at the foot of those Wall Street thugs namely Jacob Schiff and pals who financed Stalin/Lennin and Trotsky&#039;s little Bolshevik revolution for personal gain of sorts, and later in history we find that around 1943 guess who started Russia down this path of nuclear chaos, low and behold we did, and we read;

&quot;Major George Racey Jordan, an officer in the United States Armey during the Second World War, was the officer in charge of the transfer of the Lend lease supplies through the Great Falls, Montana, air base. It was here that the planes were loaded with the transferable goods prior to being flown to Fairbanks Alaska, where the planes were flown into Russia by Russian pilots. Major Jordan, curious by nature opened various briefcases and cartons, and saw various words he was not familiar with on various papers : uranium, cyclotron, neutron, cobalt, and plutonium. 

In addition Jordan discovered various reports from OAK RIDGE, MANHATTAN District (it was the manhattan project in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, where the American scientists were developing the plans for the Atomic bomb) containing phrases like &#039;energy produced by fission.&#039;  Jordan also discovered…..at least three consignments of uranium chemicals….nearly three quarters of a ton.

Confirmed also was the shipment of one kilogram, or 2.2 pounds of uranium metal at the time when the total American stock was 4.5 pounds ! These findings meant little to Major Jordan until 1949, when Russia exploded their first Atomic bomb.  it was then he realized that he had been witness to the transfer of the materials and plans for the construction of Russia&#039;s atomic bomb. And this occured in 1943.  Major Jordan&#039;s charges were corroborated by a {NON-FICTIONAL } Novel written by James Roosevelt, the son of Franklin Roosevelt, in 1980. The dust cover of the book describes the contents of the novel, entitled A Family Matter. 

President Roosevelt makes a bold secret decision—to share the results of the Manhattan Project  with the Soviet Union….The novel details how President Roosevelt gave Russia the plans for the atomic bomb in 1943 and 1944.  

Our leaders gave the Russian leaders the technology to advance their agenda as well as our own,  American traitors are in part responsible for the pollution described above and the harm to innocents living along the river.  Of course the purpose of these events is far more sinister in detail and to lengthy a topic for here. But in a nutshell the Cold War was a brilliant hoax, which led to more world powers for certain regimes and intelligencia agencies at home and abroad. And think for a moment, history lied to us again, in the Nagasaki and Hiroshima blasts we had the technology to detonate the Atom bomb, on the surface of the earth only, the geometric trigger assembly was beyond those men at the time, the bombs dropped were magnesium flash bombs loaded with uranium blocks.  The bombs had been set off on the surface both times. 

Brilliant strategy which made the world think twice of messing with the American again and lasts to this day.  To prove this perspective one needs only read Eric Jon Phelps Vatican Assassins III ; Wounded in the house of my friends…1836 pages with 4000 pages of references and another 2000 references throughout the entire work.   Wall Street controlled the Russian just like they controlled the U.S. government via London Bankers.&quot;[/quote]

Yup, looks like you included it all ......

Oh wait, you forgot to mention the part about how the holocaust never happened.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]William Butcher Cutting said: &#8220;Good bit of news on a covered up tragedy and I enjoyed it, thanks, BUT lets lay blame for this madness where it deserves to be, at the foot of those Wall Street thugs namely Jacob Schiff and pals who financed Stalin/Lennin and Trotsky&#8217;s little Bolshevik revolution for personal gain of sorts, and later in history we find that around 1943 guess who started Russia down this path of nuclear chaos, low and behold we did, and we read;</p>
<p>&#8220;Major George Racey Jordan, an officer in the United States Armey during the Second World War, was the officer in charge of the transfer of the Lend lease supplies through the Great Falls, Montana, air base. It was here that the planes were loaded with the transferable goods prior to being flown to Fairbanks Alaska, where the planes were flown into Russia by Russian pilots. Major Jordan, curious by nature opened various briefcases and cartons, and saw various words he was not familiar with on various papers : uranium, cyclotron, neutron, cobalt, and plutonium. </p>
<p>In addition Jordan discovered various reports from OAK RIDGE, MANHATTAN District (it was the manhattan project in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, where the American scientists were developing the plans for the Atomic bomb) containing phrases like &#8216;energy produced by fission.&#8217;  Jordan also discovered…..at least three consignments of uranium chemicals….nearly three quarters of a ton.</p>
<p>Confirmed also was the shipment of one kilogram, or 2.2 pounds of uranium metal at the time when the total American stock was 4.5 pounds ! These findings meant little to Major Jordan until 1949, when Russia exploded their first Atomic bomb.  it was then he realized that he had been witness to the transfer of the materials and plans for the construction of Russia&#8217;s atomic bomb. And this occured in 1943.  Major Jordan&#8217;s charges were corroborated by a {NON-FICTIONAL } Novel written by James Roosevelt, the son of Franklin Roosevelt, in 1980. The dust cover of the book describes the contents of the novel, entitled A Family Matter. </p>
<p>President Roosevelt makes a bold secret decision—to share the results of the Manhattan Project  with the Soviet Union….The novel details how President Roosevelt gave Russia the plans for the atomic bomb in 1943 and 1944.  </p>
<p>Our leaders gave the Russian leaders the technology to advance their agenda as well as our own,  American traitors are in part responsible for the pollution described above and the harm to innocents living along the river.  Of course the purpose of these events is far more sinister in detail and to lengthy a topic for here. But in a nutshell the Cold War was a brilliant hoax, which led to more world powers for certain regimes and intelligencia agencies at home and abroad. And think for a moment, history lied to us again, in the Nagasaki and Hiroshima blasts we had the technology to detonate the Atom bomb, on the surface of the earth only, the geometric trigger assembly was beyond those men at the time, the bombs dropped were magnesium flash bombs loaded with uranium blocks.  The bombs had been set off on the surface both times. </p>
<p>Brilliant strategy which made the world think twice of messing with the American again and lasts to this day.  To prove this perspective one needs only read Eric Jon Phelps Vatican Assassins III ; Wounded in the house of my friends…1836 pages with 4000 pages of references and another 2000 references throughout the entire work.   Wall Street controlled the Russian just like they controlled the U.S. government via London Bankers.&#8221;[/quote]</p>
<p>Yup, looks like you included it all &#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh wait, you forgot to mention the part about how the holocaust never happened.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Suchros</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, I might be totally off with my geography, but I think that lake might be really bad for arctic ocean, Norway etc...

I don&#039;t know what you did as kids (I read about this stuff in 5th or so grade, 1975 or so - so I am not so sure any more-I am no geologist/biologist of any kind). I will also not spend time searching-I guess author&#039;ll correct me if I&#039;m wrong now(!), but I still remember (no, I&#039;m not Russian or anything) we did draw stuff about where rivers lead all over the world. Sometimes they go to odd places (like non-asian side of Ural...).

So nobody, nobody considered - even after all this time - that water might flow that way ? I just ran googlemap and I think it might end up near novalja zemlja (east of Caspian after all). Now think about the halflife of that radioactive stuff you spread on us all... and be scared. If it ever, ever moves anywhere. Might be southwards, too.

Anyhow one&#039;ll propably always have some kind of trouble with superpowers (even if you only share a fraction of the east/west border we do-oh of course you do if you&#039;re EU &amp;not .fi) as their neighbor.
Duly note last major one-our firetrucks couldn&#039;t go help stop forestfires burning in Russia (fires coloring our large and clean country dirty for a long time)... Oh, yes we can still drink from the rivers (and many lakes) although we don&#039;t :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, I might be totally off with my geography, but I think that lake might be really bad for arctic ocean, Norway etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what you did as kids (I read about this stuff in 5th or so grade, 1975 or so &#8211; so I am not so sure any more-I am no geologist/biologist of any kind). I will also not spend time searching-I guess author&#8217;ll correct me if I&#8217;m wrong now(!), but I still remember (no, I&#8217;m not Russian or anything) we did draw stuff about where rivers lead all over the world. Sometimes they go to odd places (like non-asian side of Ural&#8230;).</p>
<p>So nobody, nobody considered &#8211; even after all this time &#8211; that water might flow that way ? I just ran googlemap and I think it might end up near novalja zemlja (east of Caspian after all). Now think about the halflife of that radioactive stuff you spread on us all&#8230; and be scared. If it ever, ever moves anywhere. Might be southwards, too.</p>
<p>Anyhow one&#8217;ll propably always have some kind of trouble with superpowers (even if you only share a fraction of the east/west border we do-oh of course you do if you&#8217;re EU &amp;not .fi) as their neighbor.<br />
Duly note last major one-our firetrucks couldn&#8217;t go help stop forestfires burning in Russia (fires coloring our large and clean country dirty for a long time)&#8230; Oh, yes we can still drink from the rivers (and many lakes) although we don&#8217;t :)</p>
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		<title>By: Silverhill</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]William Butcher Cutting said: &quot;Confirmed also was the shipment of one kilogram, or 2.2 pounds of uranium metal at the time when the total American stock was 4.5 pounds!&quot;[/quote]1 kg of uranium would have done essentially nothing for the Russian efforts.  What was needed was many hundreds of kilos, which were in use in the Oak Ridge separation plants by late 1943.   The Russians could have smelted a lot of uranium by their own efforts without needing a &quot;starter&quot; amount, especially one so small.

[quote]&quot;And think for a moment, history lied to us again, in the Nagasaki and Hiroshima blasts we had the technology to detonate the Atom bomb, on the surface of the earth only, the geometric trigger assembly was beyond those men at the time, the bombs dropped were magnesium flash bombs loaded with uranium blocks. The bombs had been set off on the surface both times.&quot;[/quote]This is ridiculous, several different ways:
(1) The triggering of an atomic bomb does not depend on where the bomb is (whether on the ground, above it, or below it); it&#039;s simply a matter of initiating a chemical explosion.
(2) If by &quot;the geometric trigger assembly&quot; you mean the spheric-implosion configuration used for plutonium-based bombs, it was not &quot;beyond those men at the time&quot;.  It was first used by those men at 05:29:45, 16 July 1945, at the &quot;Trinity&quot; site in New Mexico.  The yield was approximately 20 kt.  It was next used about 1000 feet over Nagasaki.
(3) No amount of magnesium that can be carried by an aircraft could produce the light that was seen over those cities.  And no amount of (stable) magnesium &lt;i&gt;at all&lt;/i&gt; could liberate the gamma radiation that killed or sickened many Japanese there.
(4) Exactly what good would blocks of uranium do in an air-burst flashbomb?  The uranium might ignite, maybe, but not much and to no real effect.
(5)  If the detonation happened on the ground, how were there &lt;i&gt;two&lt;/i&gt; powerful shock waves experienced by the aircraft?  (This could only happen if there were one directly from the aerial burst, and one reflected from the ground.)

The author of your book needs to do some reviewing, both of history and of physics.

[quote]&quot;...low and behold we did,&quot;[/quote]  Please learn the difference between the interjection &quot;lo&quot; and the adjective &quot;low&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]William Butcher Cutting said: &#8220;Confirmed also was the shipment of one kilogram, or 2.2 pounds of uranium metal at the time when the total American stock was 4.5 pounds!&#8221;[/quote]1 kg of uranium would have done essentially nothing for the Russian efforts.  What was needed was many hundreds of kilos, which were in use in the Oak Ridge separation plants by late 1943.   The Russians could have smelted a lot of uranium by their own efforts without needing a &#8220;starter&#8221; amount, especially one so small.</p>
<p>[quote]&#8220;And think for a moment, history lied to us again, in the Nagasaki and Hiroshima blasts we had the technology to detonate the Atom bomb, on the surface of the earth only, the geometric trigger assembly was beyond those men at the time, the bombs dropped were magnesium flash bombs loaded with uranium blocks. The bombs had been set off on the surface both times.&#8221;[/quote]This is ridiculous, several different ways:<br />
(1) The triggering of an atomic bomb does not depend on where the bomb is (whether on the ground, above it, or below it); it&#8217;s simply a matter of initiating a chemical explosion.<br />
(2) If by &#8220;the geometric trigger assembly&#8221; you mean the spheric-implosion configuration used for plutonium-based bombs, it was not &#8220;beyond those men at the time&#8221;.  It was first used by those men at 05:29:45, 16 July 1945, at the &#8220;Trinity&#8221; site in New Mexico.  The yield was approximately 20 kt.  It was next used about 1000 feet over Nagasaki.<br />
(3) No amount of magnesium that can be carried by an aircraft could produce the light that was seen over those cities.  And no amount of (stable) magnesium <i>at all</i> could liberate the gamma radiation that killed or sickened many Japanese there.<br />
(4) Exactly what good would blocks of uranium do in an air-burst flashbomb?  The uranium might ignite, maybe, but not much and to no real effect.<br />
(5)  If the detonation happened on the ground, how were there <i>two</i> powerful shock waves experienced by the aircraft?  (This could only happen if there were one directly from the aerial burst, and one reflected from the ground.)</p>
<p>The author of your book needs to do some reviewing, both of history and of physics.</p>
<p>[quote]&#8220;&#8230;low and behold we did,&#8221;[/quote]  Please learn the difference between the interjection &#8220;lo&#8221; and the adjective &#8220;low&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: William Butcher Cutting</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good bit of news on a covered up tragedy and I enjoyed it, thanks, BUT lets lay blame for this madness where it deserves to be, at the foot of those Wall Street thugs namely Jacob Schiff and pals who financed Stalin/Lennin and Trotsky&#039;s little Bolshevik revolution for personal gain of sorts, and later in history we find that around 1943 guess who started Russia down this path of nuclear chaos, low and behold we did, and we read;

&quot;Major George Racey Jordan, an officer in the United States Armey during the Second World War, was the officer in charge of the transfer of the Lend lease supplies through the Great Falls, Montana, air base. It was here that the planes were loaded with the transferable goods prior to being flown to Fairbanks Alaska, where the planes were flown into Russia by Russian pilots. Major Jordan, curious by nature opened various briefcases and cartons, and saw various words he was not familiar with on various papers : uranium, cyclotron, neutron, cobalt, and plutonium. 

In addition Jordan discovered various reports from OAK RIDGE, MANHATTAN District (it was the manhattan project in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, where the American scientists were developing the plans for the Atomic bomb) containing phrases like &#039;energy produced by fission.&#039;  Jordan also discovered.....at least three consignments of uranium chemicals....nearly three quarters of a ton.

Confirmed also was the shipment of one kilogram, or 2.2 pounds of uranium metal at the time when the total American stock was 4.5 pounds ! These findings meant little to Major Jordan until 1949, when Russia exploded their first Atomic bomb.  it was then he realized that he had been witness to the transfer of the materials and plans for the construction of Russia&#039;s atomic bomb. And this occured in 1943.  Major Jordan&#039;s charges were corroborated by a {NON-FICTIONAL } Novel written by James Roosevelt, the son of Franklin Roosevelt, in 1980. The dust cover of the book describes the contents of the novel, entitled A Family Matter. 

President Roosevelt makes a bold secret decision---to share the results of the Manhattan Project  with the Soviet Union....The novel details how President Roosevelt gave Russia the plans for the atomic bomb in 1943 and 1944.  

Our leaders gave the Russian leaders the technology to advance their agenda as well as our own,  American traitors are in part responsible for the pollution described above and the harm to innocents living along the river.  Of course the purpose of these events is far more sinister in detail and to lengthy a topic for here. But in a nutshell the Cold War was a brilliant hoax, which led to more world powers for certain regimes and intelligencia agencies at home and abroad. And think for a moment, history lied to us again, in the Nagasaki and Hiroshima blasts we had the technology to detonate the Atom bomb, on the surface of the earth only, the geometric trigger assembly was beyond those men at the time, the bombs dropped were magnesium flash bombs loaded with uranium blocks.  The bombs had been set off on the surface both times. 

Brilliant strategy which made the world think twice of messing with the American again and lasts to this day.  To prove this perspective one needs only read Eric Jon Phelps Vatican Assassins III ; Wounded in the house of my friends...1836 pages with 4000 pages of references and another 2000 references throughout the entire work.   Wall Street controlled the Russian just like they controlled the U.S. government via London Bankers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good bit of news on a covered up tragedy and I enjoyed it, thanks, BUT lets lay blame for this madness where it deserves to be, at the foot of those Wall Street thugs namely Jacob Schiff and pals who financed Stalin/Lennin and Trotsky&#8217;s little Bolshevik revolution for personal gain of sorts, and later in history we find that around 1943 guess who started Russia down this path of nuclear chaos, low and behold we did, and we read;</p>
<p>&#8220;Major George Racey Jordan, an officer in the United States Armey during the Second World War, was the officer in charge of the transfer of the Lend lease supplies through the Great Falls, Montana, air base. It was here that the planes were loaded with the transferable goods prior to being flown to Fairbanks Alaska, where the planes were flown into Russia by Russian pilots. Major Jordan, curious by nature opened various briefcases and cartons, and saw various words he was not familiar with on various papers : uranium, cyclotron, neutron, cobalt, and plutonium. </p>
<p>In addition Jordan discovered various reports from OAK RIDGE, MANHATTAN District (it was the manhattan project in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, where the American scientists were developing the plans for the Atomic bomb) containing phrases like &#8216;energy produced by fission.&#8217;  Jordan also discovered&#8230;..at least three consignments of uranium chemicals&#8230;.nearly three quarters of a ton.</p>
<p>Confirmed also was the shipment of one kilogram, or 2.2 pounds of uranium metal at the time when the total American stock was 4.5 pounds ! These findings meant little to Major Jordan until 1949, when Russia exploded their first Atomic bomb.  it was then he realized that he had been witness to the transfer of the materials and plans for the construction of Russia&#8217;s atomic bomb. And this occured in 1943.  Major Jordan&#8217;s charges were corroborated by a {NON-FICTIONAL } Novel written by James Roosevelt, the son of Franklin Roosevelt, in 1980. The dust cover of the book describes the contents of the novel, entitled A Family Matter. </p>
<p>President Roosevelt makes a bold secret decision&#8212;to share the results of the Manhattan Project  with the Soviet Union&#8230;.The novel details how President Roosevelt gave Russia the plans for the atomic bomb in 1943 and 1944.  </p>
<p>Our leaders gave the Russian leaders the technology to advance their agenda as well as our own,  American traitors are in part responsible for the pollution described above and the harm to innocents living along the river.  Of course the purpose of these events is far more sinister in detail and to lengthy a topic for here. But in a nutshell the Cold War was a brilliant hoax, which led to more world powers for certain regimes and intelligencia agencies at home and abroad. And think for a moment, history lied to us again, in the Nagasaki and Hiroshima blasts we had the technology to detonate the Atom bomb, on the surface of the earth only, the geometric trigger assembly was beyond those men at the time, the bombs dropped were magnesium flash bombs loaded with uranium blocks.  The bombs had been set off on the surface both times. </p>
<p>Brilliant strategy which made the world think twice of messing with the American again and lasts to this day.  To prove this perspective one needs only read Eric Jon Phelps Vatican Assassins III ; Wounded in the house of my friends&#8230;1836 pages with 4000 pages of references and another 2000 references throughout the entire work.   Wall Street controlled the Russian just like they controlled the U.S. government via London Bankers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mirage_GSM</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/in-soviet-russia-lake-contaminates-you/#comment-23479</link>
		<dc:creator>Mirage_GSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, I&#039;d like it on the record, that I am not an environmentalist. In fact I spend much of my professional life debunking the junk some environmentalists spout, but I do give them credit when I think they are right.
[quote]I understand it is politically correct to adhere to our &quot;conservation&quot; debates but lets include all the facts/theories at our disposal; not just the pre/rehearsed dogma of the &quot;not so enlightened&quot;.[/quote]
While political correctness IS an issue in my job, scientifical correctness is more important. If you have additional and/or contradicting theories, I&#039;d be glad to give them consideration.
[quote]First, let me let you guys in on the next generation of Archaeology, it is underwater!! If you consider most of us (+-70%) live within 1oo miles of a seaboard, can you assume that was true thousands of years ago?? Some say yes and are being rewarded. Those few have unearthed harbours and cities 50 feet underwater![/quote]
I&#039;ve heard about those. In fact two of them have articles here at DI. Last time I checked, it was still debated among archaeologists whether those are artificial structures or products of natural erosion. Let&#039;s assume for the sake of argument, that they are in fact sunken cities. The one close to Japan would have to be dated at about 10.000BCE at the time of the last Ice Age. No one is contending the fact that sea levels were a lot lower then than they are today, so I don&#039;t see why this should be evidence against anthropogenic global warming.
[quote]As exciting as it is, it sheds light on the warming history of our planet… as do glacier core samples which reflect and mirror known spikes in CO2 concentrations in our planets lengthy history, along with the rapid rise in temperature. What we have also seen is a rapid fall in CO2 concentrations accompanied by a severe cold snap.[/quote]
Again, this is not contended among scientists. Except perhaps for the fact that when a geologist talks about a “rapid rise in temperature” his definition of “rapid” is probably not the same that we would have in mind. There are some spikes that would probably be classified as rapid be laymen as well, but those were nearly all caused by (or the cause of) extinction events (e.g. Asteroid impacts), so I would not cite them as evidence for the harmlessness of climate change.
[quote]Are the SW lakes of the US drying?...[/quote]
No comment. My knowledge of US geography is only rudimentary ;-)
[quote]...the doom sayers of global warming don&#039;t tell you CO2 can be and is vented through our atmosphere, changes the model significantly doesn&#039;t it?[/quote]
I don&#039;t quite get your point. Yes, CO2 is a regular component of the atmosphere – the air we breathe. This fact is sometimes omitted out of ignorance, but I don&#039;t see a reason why it should be intentionally kept secret. It is the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere which (together with other factors) influences the greenhouse effect. A higher concentration of CO2 means an increased greenhouse effect. This is well known, and meteorologists the world over have included the CO2 concentration in their models.
Between the 1960s and 2007 the atmospheric CO2 concentration went up by about 20% (source wikipedia; exact number may vary depending on point of measurement).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_the_Earth%27s_atmosphere
[quote]As for forests on the Poles, here is another sweet theory, polarity shift. .... All these seem to spell big change for us both in the past and our future…[/quote]
I admit I never did much research into Geomagnetic Reversal, but after a quick look at the corresponding wikipedia page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal ) I can&#039;t see any relevance at all to global climate change. Apparently the only influence a polarity shift is expected to have is wreaking havoc with electromagnetic communications. This could admittedly be quite a problem, but not one which pertains to this discussion.
[quote]I have yet to see or hear a credited scientist lecture on the human effects of Global Warming. I have heard many people go on about the subject but never an actual PHD, Professor or an Eminent Scientist that has accolades like Tiger Woods Trophy room. ... So, where are they? The poster child is a politician?[/quote]
Maybe you don&#039;t visit the right lectures. I have heard accredited scientists lecture on the subject. To date the best and most informative lectures I attended were one by the head of the german Senckenberg Natural History Institute ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senckenberg ) - a geologist, and  the leading meteorologist of the DLR ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Aerospace_Center ) - an institution that is very rarely accused of being environmentalist.
If the media prefer to publicise the pseudo science of Al Gore, it is because he is more famous than most scientists and his alarmist message sells better.
[quote]What I disagree with is that the price tag for all this doesn&#039;t even come with a guarantee anything will change… it is more a money gathering gimmick than an actual pure spitied fix for the Earth! [/quote]
You are right. Even if we go to extreme lengths in reducing our CO2 emissions we have no guarantee that it will be enough to stop global warming. To be able to reverse what has already happen is almost too much to hope for.
However if we do nothing we HAVE the guarantee that things will get pretty ugly pretty soon.
[quote]Also, many of staunchest Environmentalists i have met are born in the wool city folks. From their perspective, I would agree nature is scarce, but when driving from one end to the other of this country, there is still a lot of wide open space where nature does just fine.[/quote]
Absolutely no argument from me here ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I&#8217;d like it on the record, that I am not an environmentalist. In fact I spend much of my professional life debunking the junk some environmentalists spout, but I do give them credit when I think they are right.<br />
[quote]I understand it is politically correct to adhere to our &#8220;conservation&#8221; debates but lets include all the facts/theories at our disposal; not just the pre/rehearsed dogma of the &#8220;not so enlightened&#8221;.[/quote]<br />
While political correctness IS an issue in my job, scientifical correctness is more important. If you have additional and/or contradicting theories, I&#8217;d be glad to give them consideration.<br />
[quote]First, let me let you guys in on the next generation of Archaeology, it is underwater!! If you consider most of us (+-70%) live within 1oo miles of a seaboard, can you assume that was true thousands of years ago?? Some say yes and are being rewarded. Those few have unearthed harbours and cities 50 feet underwater![/quote]<br />
I&#8217;ve heard about those. In fact two of them have articles here at DI. Last time I checked, it was still debated among archaeologists whether those are artificial structures or products of natural erosion. Let&#8217;s assume for the sake of argument, that they are in fact sunken cities. The one close to Japan would have to be dated at about 10.000BCE at the time of the last Ice Age. No one is contending the fact that sea levels were a lot lower then than they are today, so I don&#8217;t see why this should be evidence against anthropogenic global warming.<br />
[quote]As exciting as it is, it sheds light on the warming history of our planet… as do glacier core samples which reflect and mirror known spikes in CO2 concentrations in our planets lengthy history, along with the rapid rise in temperature. What we have also seen is a rapid fall in CO2 concentrations accompanied by a severe cold snap.[/quote]<br />
Again, this is not contended among scientists. Except perhaps for the fact that when a geologist talks about a “rapid rise in temperature” his definition of “rapid” is probably not the same that we would have in mind. There are some spikes that would probably be classified as rapid be laymen as well, but those were nearly all caused by (or the cause of) extinction events (e.g. Asteroid impacts), so I would not cite them as evidence for the harmlessness of climate change.<br />
[quote]Are the SW lakes of the US drying?&#8230;[/quote]<br />
No comment. My knowledge of US geography is only rudimentary ;-)<br />
[quote]&#8230;the doom sayers of global warming don&#8217;t tell you CO2 can be and is vented through our atmosphere, changes the model significantly doesn&#8217;t it?[/quote]<br />
I don&#8217;t quite get your point. Yes, CO2 is a regular component of the atmosphere – the air we breathe. This fact is sometimes omitted out of ignorance, but I don&#8217;t see a reason why it should be intentionally kept secret. It is the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere which (together with other factors) influences the greenhouse effect. A higher concentration of CO2 means an increased greenhouse effect. This is well known, and meteorologists the world over have included the CO2 concentration in their models.<br />
Between the 1960s and 2007 the atmospheric CO2 concentration went up by about 20% (source wikipedia; exact number may vary depending on point of measurement).<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_the_Earth%27s_atmosphere" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_the_Earth%27s_atmosphere</a><br />
[quote]As for forests on the Poles, here is another sweet theory, polarity shift. &#8230;. All these seem to spell big change for us both in the past and our future…[/quote]<br />
I admit I never did much research into Geomagnetic Reversal, but after a quick look at the corresponding wikipedia page ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal</a> ) I can&#8217;t see any relevance at all to global climate change. Apparently the only influence a polarity shift is expected to have is wreaking havoc with electromagnetic communications. This could admittedly be quite a problem, but not one which pertains to this discussion.<br />
[quote]I have yet to see or hear a credited scientist lecture on the human effects of Global Warming. I have heard many people go on about the subject but never an actual PHD, Professor or an Eminent Scientist that has accolades like Tiger Woods Trophy room. &#8230; So, where are they? The poster child is a politician?[/quote]<br />
Maybe you don&#8217;t visit the right lectures. I have heard accredited scientists lecture on the subject. To date the best and most informative lectures I attended were one by the head of the german Senckenberg Natural History Institute ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senckenberg" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senckenberg</a> ) &#8211; a geologist, and  the leading meteorologist of the DLR ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Aerospace_Center" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Aerospace_Center</a> ) &#8211; an institution that is very rarely accused of being environmentalist.<br />
If the media prefer to publicise the pseudo science of Al Gore, it is because he is more famous than most scientists and his alarmist message sells better.<br />
[quote]What I disagree with is that the price tag for all this doesn&#8217;t even come with a guarantee anything will change… it is more a money gathering gimmick than an actual pure spitied fix for the Earth! [/quote]<br />
You are right. Even if we go to extreme lengths in reducing our CO2 emissions we have no guarantee that it will be enough to stop global warming. To be able to reverse what has already happen is almost too much to hope for.<br />
However if we do nothing we HAVE the guarantee that things will get pretty ugly pretty soon.<br />
[quote]Also, many of staunchest Environmentalists i have met are born in the wool city folks. From their perspective, I would agree nature is scarce, but when driving from one end to the other of this country, there is still a lot of wide open space where nature does just fine.[/quote]<br />
Absolutely no argument from me here ^_^</p>
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