Comments on: John Frum and the Cargo Cults http://www.damninteresting.com/john-frum-and-the-cargo-cults/ A collection of legitimately fascinating information culled from the past, present, and anticipated future. Sun, 20 May 2012 04:50:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: timjowers http://www.damninteresting.com/john-frum-and-the-cargo-cults/#comment-26850 timjowers Wed, 02 Nov 2011 08:45:18 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=788#comment-26850 [quote]timjowers said: "quite interesting indeed. you’d think someone would bother to ask the “cults” what they believe. I think one poster may have hit on it for real, if they have interesting rituals then they entertain themselves and their guests. I think also one must realize the fun of making bamboo towers and landing strips. Its like painting or drawing. The tone of superiority one senses from the earliest records of “tribes” rings through even in this article and most of the postings in it. Probably, in reality, the islanders are fairly smart. They might laugh at us saying “make a wish’ when we blow out candles on a birthday cake as much as we laugh at them saying John Frum will come from the volcano!"[/quote] BTW, generally a "cult" is any organization which forbids an individual to leave the group. Also, forbids interaction with other groups. So, "cult" is a misnomer but a derogatory term in the spirit of superiority mentioned above. [quote]timjowers said: “quite interesting indeed. you’d think someone would bother to ask the “cults” what they believe. I think one poster may have hit on it for real, if they have interesting rituals then they entertain themselves and their guests. I think also one must realize the fun of making bamboo towers and landing strips. Its like painting or drawing. The tone of superiority one senses from the earliest records of “tribes” rings through even in this article and most of the postings in it. Probably, in reality, the islanders are fairly smart. They might laugh at us saying “make a wish’ when we blow out candles on a birthday cake as much as we laugh at them saying John Frum will come from the volcano!”[/quote]

BTW, generally a “cult” is any organization which forbids an individual to leave the group. Also, forbids interaction with other groups. So, “cult” is a misnomer but a derogatory term in the spirit of superiority mentioned above.

]]> By: timjowers http://www.damninteresting.com/john-frum-and-the-cargo-cults/#comment-26849 timjowers Wed, 02 Nov 2011 08:43:31 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=788#comment-26849 quite interesting indeed. you'd think someone would bother to ask the "cults" what they believe. I think one poster may have hit on it for real, if they have interesting rituals then they entertain themselves and their guests. I think also one must realize the fun of making bamboo towers and landing strips. Its like painting or drawing. The tone of superiority one senses from the earliest records of "tribes" rings through even in this article and most of the postings in it. Probably, in reality, the islanders are fairly smart. They might laugh at us saying "make a wish' when we blow out candles on a birthday cake as much as we laugh at them saying John Frum will come from the volcano! quite interesting indeed. you’d think someone would bother to ask the “cults” what they believe. I think one poster may have hit on it for real, if they have interesting rituals then they entertain themselves and their guests. I think also one must realize the fun of making bamboo towers and landing strips. Its like painting or drawing. The tone of superiority one senses from the earliest records of “tribes” rings through even in this article and most of the postings in it. Probably, in reality, the islanders are fairly smart. They might laugh at us saying “make a wish’ when we blow out candles on a birthday cake as much as we laugh at them saying John Frum will come from the volcano!

]]> By: azdezinergirl http://www.damninteresting.com/john-frum-and-the-cargo-cults/#comment-26146 azdezinergirl Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:17:20 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=788#comment-26146 My daughter taught me about John Frum...my mailman "brought" me a new car...he's our John Frum. I'm printing this article and putting it in the mailbox for him!!! My daughter taught me about John Frum…my mailman “brought” me a new car…he’s our John Frum. I’m printing this article and putting it in the mailbox for him!!!

]]> By: stinger http://www.damninteresting.com/john-frum-and-the-cargo-cults/#comment-24288 stinger Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:38:32 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=788#comment-24288 Just a note, the Smithsonian article says they tried to buy LJ for $1000 not $77000: In 1964, one cargo cult on New Hanover Island in Papua New Guinea offered the U.S. government $1,000 for Lyndon Johnson to come and be their paramount chief. But as the years passed with empty skies and seas, almost all the cargo cults disappeared, the devotees’ hopes crushed. Just a note, the Smithsonian article says they tried to buy LJ for $1000 not $77000:

In 1964, one cargo cult on New Hanover Island in Papua New Guinea offered the U.S. government $1,000 for Lyndon Johnson to come and be their paramount chief. But as the years passed with empty skies and seas, almost all the cargo cults disappeared, the devotees’ hopes crushed.

]]> By: ThomasD http://www.damninteresting.com/john-frum-and-the-cargo-cults/#comment-23975 ThomasD Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:27:43 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=788#comment-23975 Not that cults don't form in even the most sophisticated of societies even today, but I think this sort of phenomenon clearly illustrates the willingness and ease the human species showcases when it comes to believing a higher power. Simply put, humans in general want to believe, and they'll believe just about anything if need be. There's no wonder why our major religions formed when they did - that is, in an age where the world was much more like these tribes than the world we have today. Not that cults don’t form in even the most sophisticated of societies even today, but I think this sort of phenomenon clearly illustrates the willingness and ease the human species showcases when it comes to believing a higher power. Simply put, humans in general want to believe, and they’ll believe just about anything if need be.

There’s no wonder why our major religions formed when they did – that is, in an age where the world was much more like these tribes than the world we have today.

]]> By: stholas http://www.damninteresting.com/john-frum-and-the-cargo-cults/#comment-23703 stholas Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:16:39 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=788#comment-23703 Einstein was way more spiritual and religious than the 'good book' requires you to be. That alone is enough to reject the goofy book, or for that matter, any other enlightening text out there. (This message has been sponsored by the cult of cult hating true believers of science and worshippers of the Theory of Relativity) Einstein was way more spiritual and religious than the ‘good book’ requires you to be. That alone is enough to reject the goofy book, or for that matter, any other enlightening text out there.

(This message has been sponsored by the cult of cult hating true believers of science and worshippers of the Theory of Relativity)

]]> By: John Frum http://www.damninteresting.com/john-frum-and-the-cargo-cults/#comment-23655 John Frum Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:19:30 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=788#comment-23655 I am reading a book written by John Rush and Abbe Anderson called 'The Man with the Bird on his Head'. Anyone interested in following up the comments of the John Frum stuff from above would be very interested in the up to date book by some one who went there in 1991. ISBN is 1-57658-005-9 Published by YWAM Publishing in 1997 I am reading a book written by John Rush and Abbe Anderson called ‘The Man with the Bird on his Head’.
Anyone interested in following up the comments of the John Frum stuff from above would be very interested in the up to date book by some one who went there in 1991.
ISBN is 1-57658-005-9 Published by YWAM Publishing in 1997

]]> By: Gerry Matlack http://www.damninteresting.com/john-frum-and-the-cargo-cults/#comment-23615 Gerry Matlack Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:33:10 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=788#comment-23615 I was tickled when I saw this online today... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1skNgYdJXK8&feature=channel_page Apparently, Richard Dawkins (or at least one of his production staff) is a DI reader - the second map in the video is unique to this site. (or he got it from someone who "borrowed" it from here) I was tickled when I saw this online today… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1skNgYdJXK8&feature=channel_page

Apparently, Richard Dawkins (or at least one of his production staff) is a DI reader – the second map in the video is unique to this site. (or he got it from someone who “borrowed” it from here)

]]> By: BenKinsey http://www.damninteresting.com/john-frum-and-the-cargo-cults/#comment-23454 BenKinsey Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:27:41 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=788#comment-23454 [quote]J.K. said: ""…Anus ejected them from Eden and struck them with a flood." Would that make the colon eden then? :) Seriously though that is an amazing write-up there. Shame how rotten missionaries tend to be historically forcing their rotten beliefs on people who were perfectly happy until that time. It's damn interesting to see how that forced warping of reality then can backpeddle into a kind of learning by example in a positive way to form an odd 'cargo cult' religion. They seem happy with it for sure, so why not? And as they said they've waited 70 years so far, and those who tried to ruin their lifestyle have waited for 2000, so who is to judge?"[/quote] [quote]riqie arneberg said: "Has anyone tried to explain to the "true believers" that the Iraq war is about corporate profits? Bush fans "know" it is all about "fighting terrorism"."[/quote] You guys made me laugh so I thought I'd say thanks [quote]J.K. said: “”…Anus ejected them from Eden and struck them with a flood.”

Would that make the colon eden then? :)

Seriously though that is an amazing write-up there. Shame how rotten missionaries tend to be historically forcing their rotten beliefs on people who were perfectly happy until that time. It’s damn interesting to see how that forced warping of reality then can backpeddle into a kind of learning by example in a positive way to form an odd ‘cargo cult’ religion. They seem happy with it for sure, so why not? And as they said they’ve waited 70 years so far, and those who tried to ruin their lifestyle have waited for 2000, so who is to judge?”[/quote]

[quote]riqie arneberg said: “Has anyone tried to explain to the “true believers” that the Iraq war is about corporate profits? Bush fans “know” it is all about “fighting terrorism”.”[/quote]
You guys made me laugh so I thought I’d say thanks

]]> By: Nativity http://www.damninteresting.com/john-frum-and-the-cargo-cults/#comment-22684 Nativity Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:45:01 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=788#comment-22684 It’s Damn Interesting - how ancient cultures are worshipping present persons! But it’s also damn sad in a way. As a very interested person in Myths and Ancient cultures in general, I often feel that the telling of the Myths, have lost some of it’s original meaning. This is, of course, is very understandable regarding modern human beings, but very often I feel that even present Native people also have forgotten something of the original meaning themselves. - In the case of Native peoples worshipping white-skin-present-persons, I’m sure the Natives are really wrong because they have forgotten some very important detail of their Mythology, and especially the part that deals with the Story of Creation, which, in my opinion, is very close connected to our Milky Way Galaxy and its white contours. The Milky Way contours have been symbolized in ancient Cultures with a lots of both human and animal figures – and ALWAYS in connection with WHITE colour description of human or animal beings – and even as anthropomorphic beings. It would be Damn fine if both the modern and the Native People once again could get hold of the original meanings of the Myths, because the ancient telling bares witness to a GREAT intuitive understanding of the Cosmos in which we live. In my opinion, modern science has not yet reached the same level of holistic understanding of cosmos that many ancient cultures originally had/have. OK. Further information’s here: http://www.native-science.net/ http://www.cosmology-unified.net/ I hope You find them Damn Interesting! It’s Damn Interesting – how ancient cultures are worshipping present persons! But it’s also damn sad in a way.

As a very interested person in Myths and Ancient cultures in general, I often feel that the telling of the Myths, have lost some of it’s original meaning. This is, of course, is very understandable regarding modern human beings, but very often I feel that even present Native people also have forgotten something of the original meaning themselves.

- In the case of Native peoples worshipping white-skin-present-persons, I’m sure the Natives are really wrong because they have forgotten some very important detail of their Mythology, and especially the part that deals with the Story of Creation, which, in my opinion, is very close connected to our Milky Way Galaxy and its white contours.

The Milky Way contours have been symbolized in ancient Cultures with a lots of both human and animal figures – and ALWAYS in connection with WHITE colour description of human or animal beings – and even as anthropomorphic beings.

It would be Damn fine if both the modern and the Native People once again could get hold of the original meanings of the Myths, because the ancient telling bares witness to a GREAT intuitive understanding of the Cosmos in which we live.

In my opinion, modern science has not yet reached the same level of holistic understanding of cosmos that many ancient cultures originally had/have.

OK.
Further information’s here:
http://www.native-science.net/
http://www.cosmology-unified.net/

I hope You find them Damn Interesting!

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