Comments on: On the Origin of Circuits http://www.damninteresting.com/on-the-origin-of-circuits/ A collection of Damn Interesting things Sat, 11 Feb 2012 01:49:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ghstman http://www.damninteresting.com/on-the-origin-of-circuits/#comment-25366 Ghstman Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:56:56 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=870#comment-25366 It's a neural net processor, a learning computer. It’s a neural net processor, a learning computer.

]]> By: WordSmith http://www.damninteresting.com/on-the-origin-of-circuits/#comment-25146 WordSmith Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:11:22 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=870#comment-25146 Late poster ... Anyways : This reminds me of an article I had read a few years ago of analog circuit robots (insect-size) that evolve behavioral traits that were not designed ... one that especially impressed me was about a group of these robots that were dependent on sunlight for powering themselves. The amazing thing was, one of the robots started pushing the smaller ones out of it's way, in a circle around it, creating a territory where it dominated. DI indeed ... and a bit wierd at the same time! Late poster … Anyways :

This reminds me of an article I had read a few years ago of analog circuit robots (insect-size) that evolve behavioral traits that were not designed … one that especially impressed me was about a group of these robots that were dependent on sunlight for powering themselves. The amazing thing was, one of the robots started pushing the smaller ones out of it’s way, in a circle around it, creating a territory where it dominated. DI indeed … and a bit wierd at the same time!

]]> By: Mirage_GSM http://www.damninteresting.com/on-the-origin-of-circuits/#comment-24615 Mirage_GSM Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:28:49 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=870#comment-24615 [quote]E-hero said: "... I was wondering, how does the computer choose the optimal chip, I understand for something as simple as choosing between two sounds, but what happens when the goal for the chip isn't clear? As in, with the antenna example, it's obvious that the antenna design that picks up the best signal is the most efficient, but what if the attempt was to create something that gives off a result that can't be so easily measured?"[/quote] Defining the criteria for which to select is necessary for this method to work. If you cannot define the criteria, the circuits that are allowed to "procreate" would have to be chosen at random, and you would very probably not see any progress from generation to generation. [quote]E-hero said: “… I was wondering, how does the computer choose the optimal chip, I understand for something as simple as choosing between two sounds, but what happens when the goal for the chip isn’t clear? As in, with the antenna example, it’s obvious that the antenna design that picks up the best signal is the most efficient, but what if the attempt was to create something that gives off a result that can’t be so easily measured?”[/quote]
Defining the criteria for which to select is necessary for this method to work. If you cannot define the criteria, the circuits that are allowed to “procreate” would have to be chosen at random, and you would very probably not see any progress from generation to generation.

]]> By: ShowerRockGod http://www.damninteresting.com/on-the-origin-of-circuits/#comment-23651 ShowerRockGod Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:27:14 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=870#comment-23651 One thing I think is being forgotten is that intelligence is far from being the only thing evolution selects for. Evolution simply selects the traits that provide for better survival. Therefore to get an intelligent robot with a genetic algorithm you would need some way to select for intelligent behavior. Try that for a mental excercise. One thing I think is being forgotten is that intelligence is far from being the only thing evolution selects for. Evolution simply selects the traits that provide for better survival. Therefore to get an intelligent robot with a genetic algorithm you would need some way to select for intelligent behavior. Try that for a mental excercise.

]]> By: OmegaSeeker http://www.damninteresting.com/on-the-origin-of-circuits/#comment-23338 OmegaSeeker Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:49:48 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=870#comment-23338 Flash forward a few decades and highly evolved AIs will be arguing over how they came about; creation or evolution? :)) Flash forward a few decades and highly evolved AIs will be arguing over how they came about; creation or evolution? :))

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]]> By: Silverhill http://www.damninteresting.com/on-the-origin-of-circuits/#comment-23313 Silverhill Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:10:53 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=870#comment-23313 <b>Buddha</b>, you would contribute more usefully if you did not simply quote an entire post and then add one small, snarky, unsupported statement. Try again; give it some thought, give us something to chew on. Buddha, you would contribute more usefully if you did not simply quote an entire post and then add one small, snarky, unsupported statement.
Try again; give it some thought, give us something to chew on.

]]> By: Buddha http://www.damninteresting.com/on-the-origin-of-circuits/#comment-23309 Buddha Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:51:48 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=870#comment-23309 [quote]pari0477 said: "The Goal my friend is pretty simple. Learn to co-exist peacefully with all humans (different color, creed, religion, personalities) without any hatred or feeling of inequality. Respect them, their differences and stop being judgmental. God has said in the Bible you just have to do the right thing, leave the judgment to me (God). Let me (God not me :^P )do the judgment on Judgment day and you keep doing what is right. Preach –not force, help understand my way –not take advantage of anybody's helplessness to force him believe what I preach. You partially see the truth, but by being judgmental about other things in the last line, I think (just my opinion not judgment– as I said let god make the judgment) you lost your peace of mind and turned to negativity. As I said We are not here to make judgment, we are here to learn how to co-exist irrespective of all the differences. Being judgmental unknowingly makes you take a moral high ground which is not bad, but judgments need not necessarily be 100% accurate especially with so much of ignorance about a lot of things going on around us. Again as I said, Gates put in his 2 cents to make peoples lives better. Look around the world all the positivity it has brought to so many who previously thought there was no outlet to their creativity. His creations have actually made a lot more knowledge get shared and a lot more research that much more easier. I am pretty sure, you like me typed the messages on this message board using a MS OS. Think if this was possible before. Lol and all this frustration after using this OS without issues lets say 90% of the time. :^) Lol I got my peace of mind by taking responsibility for everything that happens around me (Of course I mean in my sphere of life) without blaming anybody else for everything that I feel is wrong. I just make sure that when I do something it should not make me feel ashamed when I look back at the actions I take. That's all that matters. There are times when people think I lie, but I know I am not. Because I am not speaking the truth to make them believe, but because I believe that by speaking the truth, I know I am not cheating myself. Pretty simple, takes time to implement, but once there, there is not looking back :^) Hope you get peace of mind and clarity of thought. :^) All The Best"[/quote] The bible sucks. [quote]pari0477 said: “The Goal my friend is pretty simple. Learn to co-exist peacefully with all humans (different color, creed, religion, personalities) without any hatred or feeling of inequality. Respect them, their differences and stop being judgmental. God has said in the Bible you just have to do the right thing, leave the judgment to me (God). Let me (God not me :^P )do the judgment on Judgment day and you keep doing what is right. Preach –not force, help understand my way –not take advantage of anybody’s helplessness to force him believe what I preach.

You partially see the truth, but by being judgmental about other things in the last line, I think (just my opinion not judgment– as I said let god make the judgment) you lost your peace of mind and turned to negativity.

As I said We are not here to make judgment, we are here to learn how to co-exist irrespective of all the differences. Being judgmental unknowingly makes you take a moral high ground which is not bad, but judgments need not necessarily be 100% accurate especially with so much of ignorance about a lot of things going on around us.

Again as I said, Gates put in his 2 cents to make peoples lives better. Look around the world all the positivity it has brought to so many who previously thought there was no outlet to their creativity. His creations have actually made a lot more knowledge get shared and a lot more research that much more easier. I am pretty sure, you like me typed the messages on this message board using a MS OS. Think if this was possible before.

Lol and all this frustration after using this OS without issues lets say 90% of the time. :^)

Lol I got my peace of mind by taking responsibility for everything that happens around me (Of course I mean in my sphere of life) without blaming anybody else for everything that I feel is wrong. I just make sure that when I do something it should not make me feel ashamed when I look back at the actions I take. That’s all that matters. There are times when people think I lie, but I know I am not. Because I am not speaking the truth to make them believe, but because I believe that by speaking the truth, I know I am not cheating myself.
Pretty simple, takes time to implement, but once there, there is not looking back :^)

Hope you get peace of mind and clarity of thought. :^) All The Best”[/quote]

The bible sucks.

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