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		<title>By: Frank G</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/operation-pastorius#comment-25866</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taking in consideration how the FBI was operating in those days, it doesn&#039;t surprise me that 
FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover was more thinking about his own gain.
Here you have a guy who gives up his future (Dasch) and trying to do the right thing,but instead he get&#039;s slashed down because of some guys with big ego&#039;s.
I see this as a black period in civil warfare, and i can&#039;t imagine that this is just a one time thing.
There are probably way more cases that we are not aware about.
But still I love this country and understand also that in that time period lots of people were all stressed  about the war, and not thinking rational at some times. 
I only hope they learn from the past, great story Christopher .
Thanks, DI

Frank G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking in consideration how the FBI was operating in those days, it doesn&#8217;t surprise me that<br />
FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover was more thinking about his own gain.<br />
Here you have a guy who gives up his future (Dasch) and trying to do the right thing,but instead he get&#8217;s slashed down because of some guys with big ego&#8217;s.<br />
I see this as a black period in civil warfare, and i can&#8217;t imagine that this is just a one time thing.<br />
There are probably way more cases that we are not aware about.<br />
But still I love this country and understand also that in that time period lots of people were all stressed  about the war, and not thinking rational at some times.<br />
I only hope they learn from the past, great story Christopher .<br />
Thanks, DI</p>
<p>Frank G</p>
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		<title>By: slyda</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/operation-pastorius#comment-25865</link>
		<dc:creator>slyda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its Dasch and Burger who should have been executed - buy their own men.....if there&#039;s one thing I can&#039;t stand its traitors and snitches.  And here you all are sticking up for these worms who got their own men killed.  The Germans should have picked their men better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its Dasch and Burger who should have been executed &#8211; buy their own men&#8230;..if there&#8217;s one thing I can&#8217;t stand its traitors and snitches.  And here you all are sticking up for these worms who got their own men killed.  The Germans should have picked their men better!</p>
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		<title>By: ischwarz</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/operation-pastorius#comment-25080</link>
		<dc:creator>ischwarz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious about where the executions of the 6 took place..some accounts say DC jail...other sing sing prison in NY....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious about where the executions of the 6 took place..some accounts say DC jail&#8230;other sing sing prison in NY&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mirage_GSM</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/operation-pastorius#comment-24487</link>
		<dc:creator>Mirage_GSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]DesScorp (#131) said: &quot;Putnam&#039;s account here paints Dasch in far too heroic a light. By every other account that I&#039;ve read, Dasch was no hero, and didn&#039;t turn his team in for any heroic reasons. He had delusions of grandeur, and was an active (and voluntary) lifetime member of the Nazi party. Dasch turned them in not because of any sympathy for America, but in a temper tantrum as he percieved that the Nazi&#039;s weren&#039;t properly recognizing his genius. Dasch had no great love for America, and in several documented accounts, displayed contempt for America because as an immigrant, he could find only menial jobs.&quot;[/quote]

I wonder: Why should the reasons for the defection of Dasch and Burger be important?
Dasch may or mayn&#039;t have had ulterior motives for defecting (That source is just one of many, and without knowing the guy it would be hard to be sure), but it is a fact that he a) didn&#039;t commit any crimes (If you don&#039;t count illegal immigration via a submarine, but for that the punishment would be a bit excessive even in wartimes...) and b) helped to prevent others from comitting a crime.
So what if he was a boisterous git personally? That&#039;s no reason to be put into jail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]DesScorp (#131) said: &#8220;Putnam&#8217;s account here paints Dasch in far too heroic a light. By every other account that I&#8217;ve read, Dasch was no hero, and didn&#8217;t turn his team in for any heroic reasons. He had delusions of grandeur, and was an active (and voluntary) lifetime member of the Nazi party. Dasch turned them in not because of any sympathy for America, but in a temper tantrum as he percieved that the Nazi&#8217;s weren&#8217;t properly recognizing his genius. Dasch had no great love for America, and in several documented accounts, displayed contempt for America because as an immigrant, he could find only menial jobs.&#8221;[/quote]</p>
<p>I wonder: Why should the reasons for the defection of Dasch and Burger be important?<br />
Dasch may or mayn&#8217;t have had ulterior motives for defecting (That source is just one of many, and without knowing the guy it would be hard to be sure), but it is a fact that he a) didn&#8217;t commit any crimes (If you don&#8217;t count illegal immigration via a submarine, but for that the punishment would be a bit excessive even in wartimes&#8230;) and b) helped to prevent others from comitting a crime.<br />
So what if he was a boisterous git personally? That&#8217;s no reason to be put into jail.</p>
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		<title>By: alex212</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/operation-pastorius#comment-24154</link>
		<dc:creator>alex212</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone tell me if traces of a certain acid had really been found in the basement sectors of the World Trade Center. I heard rumours that some experts surmise it was somehow connected with CIA.... This might be rumours, but when I heard it, it gave me the creeps...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone tell me if traces of a certain acid had really been found in the basement sectors of the World Trade Center. I heard rumours that some experts surmise it was somehow connected with CIA&#8230;. This might be rumours, but when I heard it, it gave me the creeps&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: KJK::Hyperion</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/operation-pastorius#comment-22987</link>
		<dc:creator>KJK::Hyperion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brombachian: yeah, a real dilemma. If only FBI had the authority and the resources to hide the identity and whereabouts of the two defectors until the war was over... oh, wait</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brombachian: yeah, a real dilemma. If only FBI had the authority and the resources to hide the identity and whereabouts of the two defectors until the war was over&#8230; oh, wait</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/operation-pastorius#comment-22124</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The death penalty is a tricky one for me.  Since DNA has found that so many that were put to death were actually innocent, I&#039;m not as in favor as I once was.  However, if there is NO DOUBT that an individual took the life of another human being, it&#039;s only fair that they lose theirs.  And, if I were to lose a member of my family to someone who tortured them and caused them pain, a lethal injection just wouldn&#039;t be satisfactory to me.  
For something like spying.......I think the death penalty is a little severe.

As for the abortion thing.......it has nothing to do with the death penalty, but........I just don&#039;t understand anyone who can say that a fetus is not a baby.  It most certainly is a baby.   A fetus is not a baby, only in the same way a 5 year old is not a 12 year old.   That&#039;s just stupid and ........naive.....ridiculous.  I can&#039;t even express how frustrated I get with people who insist a fetus is not a baby.    That&#039;s just a cowards way of making oneself feel better about thinking that it&#039;s ok to kill a baby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The death penalty is a tricky one for me.  Since DNA has found that so many that were put to death were actually innocent, I&#8217;m not as in favor as I once was.  However, if there is NO DOUBT that an individual took the life of another human being, it&#8217;s only fair that they lose theirs.  And, if I were to lose a member of my family to someone who tortured them and caused them pain, a lethal injection just wouldn&#8217;t be satisfactory to me.<br />
For something like spying&#8230;&#8230;.I think the death penalty is a little severe.</p>
<p>As for the abortion thing&#8230;&#8230;.it has nothing to do with the death penalty, but&#8230;&#8230;..I just don&#8217;t understand anyone who can say that a fetus is not a baby.  It most certainly is a baby.   A fetus is not a baby, only in the same way a 5 year old is not a 12 year old.   That&#8217;s just stupid and &#8230;&#8230;..naive&#8230;..ridiculous.  I can&#8217;t even express how frustrated I get with people who insist a fetus is not a baby.    That&#8217;s just a cowards way of making oneself feel better about thinking that it&#8217;s ok to kill a baby.</p>
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		<title>By: NickDB</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/operation-pastorius#comment-21776</link>
		<dc:creator>NickDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>markda1  

&quot;I wonder if anyone thinks that if an American committed crimes in another country they would be treated the same as we treat foreigners in ours?&quot;

Yes they are, in most countries that have modern constitutions, the right to a free and fair trial are offered to everyone, along with same treatment in prison etc (IT might not be the same as offered in the states, but it will be the same treatment that people of that country recieve) Illegal immigrant or not. 

markda1 I&#039;m curious, have you ever traveled?

Markda1 &quot;Again, the US has given, and continues to give the world a priceless asset that would set most of the world back 50 years if taken away. You&#039;re welcome.&quot;

Thanks for the Internet, can we have our wheel back since it existed before you yanks did?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>markda1  </p>
<p>&#8220;I wonder if anyone thinks that if an American committed crimes in another country they would be treated the same as we treat foreigners in ours?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes they are, in most countries that have modern constitutions, the right to a free and fair trial are offered to everyone, along with same treatment in prison etc (IT might not be the same as offered in the states, but it will be the same treatment that people of that country recieve) Illegal immigrant or not. </p>
<p>markda1 I&#8217;m curious, have you ever traveled?</p>
<p>Markda1 &#8220;Again, the US has given, and continues to give the world a priceless asset that would set most of the world back 50 years if taken away. You&#8217;re welcome.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the Internet, can we have our wheel back since it existed before you yanks did?</p>
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