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		<title>By: James Papas</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Papas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone, 
I have a number of questions for those who are well read.

I don&#039;t think water would boil in space. As a matter of fact I can&#039;t even understand why it would turn to vapor, because there would be no medium for the vapor to disseminate. Nature has a tendency of concentrating into spheres. So if water were to be released in space, it would just turn into a glob of sort, and then gradually freeze, and the speed with which it would do so would be contingent on the size of the body of water (due to inertia right?). I don&#039;t know if the sun&#039;s radiation would even have any effect in heating it up. Can someone answer this question?

Second, all the calculators that I found with which someone can find the boiling point of water depending on pressure, would not calculate for Zero pressure. (pressure in space is Zero right?) The lowest they can measure the boiling point is for 0.03 Bar, at which water boils at 26 degrees Celsius. But Space is much colder than 26 degrees Celsius, right? So water would not boil in space. Moreover the article above first states that water on the tip of someone&#039;s tongue (saliva) and in the eyes would boil, but a few lines later it says that it would freeze. I don&#039;t get that part.  Some people above say that water, and the body&#039;s liquids for that matter, would boil because of the body&#039;s, and thus their own, temperature, being around 36 degrees Celsius. Yet, isn&#039;t the body contained inside skin? And in turn, blood into veins, cells into membranes, and so forth? Don&#039;t these provide a kind of pressure-suit? If this idea holds, I understand swelling, but not exploding or imploding or blood boiling. Perhaps the pressure that the will be created inside the skin is enough for the body&#039;s normal temperature 36-37 degrees to prevent the boiling of liquids, probably 0.6 Bar. I think skin can take that, right?

The other point is exhaling entirely before going into space without a suit...but wouldn&#039;t that happen automatically? I mean, wouldn&#039;t the air want to escape out of the body, so exhalation would just happen on its own, no matter how hard you tried to keep your breath? Or could you hold a breath? I still don&#039;t quite understand why it would be harmful to hold your breath. Could someone elaborate? And why would someone have to keep their eyes closed? Why would the eyes want to pop out? Any trapped air can get out through the ear-larynx-nasal cavities. Another question is whether fluids can come out of the body&#039;s pores. is that even possible?

Based on the article it seems that Zero pressure is much less harmful than a lot of pressure. People/tribes who live on very high altitudes have bigger lungs, compared to those who live near valleys, to account for lack of oxygen. What would the effect of inhaling denser air suddenly (from a cylinder container) be? And would these people be better candidates for such an experiment as releasing a person in an absolute vacuum in space? 

I wonder if a pressure--boiling-point graph was made, whether it would curve towards infinity on either end, making it thus curve more acutely at more extreme pressure. If that&#039;s the case, the lower the pressure the less heat would be required to boil water. But how many degrees Celsius are required to boil water at absolute Zero pressure? What puzzles me more is that it has been said that there are traces of ice on the moon and certainly they have found ice on asteroids. If so, why doesn&#039;t the water on the moon and on asteroids turn to vapor, but instead remains solid ice? Neither of the two has an atmosphere nor would there be pressure on an asteroid, right? Just cold, hard vacuum. (the moon might have a tiny bit of an atmosphere though). But both are hit by the sun directly for long periods of time occasionally. Does he ice melt? I doubt it. 

Last but not least, just as we can equalize for very high pressure when diving at great depths, can&#039;t we equalize for a vacuum? I mean, granted it could take months, if not a years, but it is possible right? Then   the only need one would have, would be for some kind of air mixture to breath and protection from radiation.

Why don&#039;t we pay a someone to do this? Their family could use the money to build a statue of him and use the remainder to buy a Porsche. If one could volunteer for science, we would know for sure. We could even throw a monkey out there. Animal rights activists don&#039;t even have a say, because if monkeys could travel in space, they would use humans for the same reason. I&#039;d volunteer my dog, Rex, for this experiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone,<br />
I have a number of questions for those who are well read.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think water would boil in space. As a matter of fact I can&#8217;t even understand why it would turn to vapor, because there would be no medium for the vapor to disseminate. Nature has a tendency of concentrating into spheres. So if water were to be released in space, it would just turn into a glob of sort, and then gradually freeze, and the speed with which it would do so would be contingent on the size of the body of water (due to inertia right?). I don&#8217;t know if the sun&#8217;s radiation would even have any effect in heating it up. Can someone answer this question?</p>
<p>Second, all the calculators that I found with which someone can find the boiling point of water depending on pressure, would not calculate for Zero pressure. (pressure in space is Zero right?) The lowest they can measure the boiling point is for 0.03 Bar, at which water boils at 26 degrees Celsius. But Space is much colder than 26 degrees Celsius, right? So water would not boil in space. Moreover the article above first states that water on the tip of someone&#8217;s tongue (saliva) and in the eyes would boil, but a few lines later it says that it would freeze. I don&#8217;t get that part.  Some people above say that water, and the body&#8217;s liquids for that matter, would boil because of the body&#8217;s, and thus their own, temperature, being around 36 degrees Celsius. Yet, isn&#8217;t the body contained inside skin? And in turn, blood into veins, cells into membranes, and so forth? Don&#8217;t these provide a kind of pressure-suit? If this idea holds, I understand swelling, but not exploding or imploding or blood boiling. Perhaps the pressure that the will be created inside the skin is enough for the body&#8217;s normal temperature 36-37 degrees to prevent the boiling of liquids, probably 0.6 Bar. I think skin can take that, right?</p>
<p>The other point is exhaling entirely before going into space without a suit&#8230;but wouldn&#8217;t that happen automatically? I mean, wouldn&#8217;t the air want to escape out of the body, so exhalation would just happen on its own, no matter how hard you tried to keep your breath? Or could you hold a breath? I still don&#8217;t quite understand why it would be harmful to hold your breath. Could someone elaborate? And why would someone have to keep their eyes closed? Why would the eyes want to pop out? Any trapped air can get out through the ear-larynx-nasal cavities. Another question is whether fluids can come out of the body&#8217;s pores. is that even possible?</p>
<p>Based on the article it seems that Zero pressure is much less harmful than a lot of pressure. People/tribes who live on very high altitudes have bigger lungs, compared to those who live near valleys, to account for lack of oxygen. What would the effect of inhaling denser air suddenly (from a cylinder container) be? And would these people be better candidates for such an experiment as releasing a person in an absolute vacuum in space? </p>
<p>I wonder if a pressure&#8211;boiling-point graph was made, whether it would curve towards infinity on either end, making it thus curve more acutely at more extreme pressure. If that&#8217;s the case, the lower the pressure the less heat would be required to boil water. But how many degrees Celsius are required to boil water at absolute Zero pressure? What puzzles me more is that it has been said that there are traces of ice on the moon and certainly they have found ice on asteroids. If so, why doesn&#8217;t the water on the moon and on asteroids turn to vapor, but instead remains solid ice? Neither of the two has an atmosphere nor would there be pressure on an asteroid, right? Just cold, hard vacuum. (the moon might have a tiny bit of an atmosphere though). But both are hit by the sun directly for long periods of time occasionally. Does he ice melt? I doubt it. </p>
<p>Last but not least, just as we can equalize for very high pressure when diving at great depths, can&#8217;t we equalize for a vacuum? I mean, granted it could take months, if not a years, but it is possible right? Then   the only need one would have, would be for some kind of air mixture to breath and protection from radiation.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t we pay a someone to do this? Their family could use the money to build a statue of him and use the remainder to buy a Porsche. If one could volunteer for science, we would know for sure. We could even throw a monkey out there. Animal rights activists don&#8217;t even have a say, because if monkeys could travel in space, they would use humans for the same reason. I&#8217;d volunteer my dog, Rex, for this experiment.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Studworthy</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/outer-space-exposure#comment-24590</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>101st.....
If i recall, it&#039;s actually the oxygen level in the blood that falls to &#039;normally&#039; fatal levels, yet they continue on (that&#039;s because of acclimatising at the various base camps) If your core temp falls just a few degrees you are in real bad shape. Frost bite is bad enough and is often fatal, core temp falls and they won&#039;t even bother to attempt to get you down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>101st&#8230;..<br />
If i recall, it&#8217;s actually the oxygen level in the blood that falls to &#8216;normally&#8217; fatal levels, yet they continue on (that&#8217;s because of acclimatising at the various base camps) If your core temp falls just a few degrees you are in real bad shape. Frost bite is bad enough and is often fatal, core temp falls and they won&#8217;t even bother to attempt to get you down!</p>
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		<title>By: Mirage_GSM</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/outer-space-exposure#comment-24582</link>
		<dc:creator>Mirage_GSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]LostInTheWired said: &quot;You must also understand that the body temperature is actually lower when fighting through Everest&#039;s hell hole of a place. This is because of the several base camps that they set up to allow their bodies to get used to the pressure and temperature.&quot;[/quote]
Now I am not a mountaineer, but I call BS on that.
True, you need the time to get used to the lower pressure, but if you allow your body temperature to actually decrease for any significant amount of time, you&#039;re doing something wrong...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]LostInTheWired said: &#8220;You must also understand that the body temperature is actually lower when fighting through Everest&#8217;s hell hole of a place. This is because of the several base camps that they set up to allow their bodies to get used to the pressure and temperature.&#8221;[/quote]<br />
Now I am not a mountaineer, but I call BS on that.<br />
True, you need the time to get used to the lower pressure, but if you allow your body temperature to actually decrease for any significant amount of time, you&#8217;re doing something wrong&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sporkus</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/outer-space-exposure#comment-24163</link>
		<dc:creator>Sporkus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blood does boil in space.  If it is on a plate.  But it is in a pressurized container.  Your skin.  So far, only bloodshot eyes have been recorded.
So there is more to the question than the old equation from chemistry, PV=nRT.  Pressure times Volume (of a gas or liquid) = number of moles times R ( a constant based on the units of measure) times absolute Temperature. 
  There is not a large amount of free gas in blood anyway.  oxygen is bound to a hemochemical.  And since you were probably breathing pure oxygen, or a mix with helium, nitrogen is not a problem.  A diver going down 60-8o feet in the ocean experiences much more pressure difference when returning to the surface than an astronaut going from 15 pounds per square inch normal  air pressure in the capsule to 0 psi.  If you were breathing oxygenated florocarbon liquid (liquids don&#039;t expand much), in the vacuum of space with a breathing mask, you would be okay for quite a while.  But keep your eyes closed.  And emulate Mr. Rogers.  Wear a sweater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blood does boil in space.  If it is on a plate.  But it is in a pressurized container.  Your skin.  So far, only bloodshot eyes have been recorded.<br />
So there is more to the question than the old equation from chemistry, PV=nRT.  Pressure times Volume (of a gas or liquid) = number of moles times R ( a constant based on the units of measure) times absolute Temperature.<br />
  There is not a large amount of free gas in blood anyway.  oxygen is bound to a hemochemical.  And since you were probably breathing pure oxygen, or a mix with helium, nitrogen is not a problem.  A diver going down 60-8o feet in the ocean experiences much more pressure difference when returning to the surface than an astronaut going from 15 pounds per square inch normal  air pressure in the capsule to 0 psi.  If you were breathing oxygenated florocarbon liquid (liquids don&#8217;t expand much), in the vacuum of space with a breathing mask, you would be okay for quite a while.  But keep your eyes closed.  And emulate Mr. Rogers.  Wear a sweater.</p>
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		<title>By: michaeljlogin1988@lycos.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought the article would say, you can survive out there just fine.

and the movies were fake , about blowing up

ok, but you really do blow up

i see.

well, it takes 2 minutes ot blow up.

that&#039;s not long.  well wait a minute that s kinda like being under water. 
so thats a nice way of seeing it, if you go under, you have to come back up for air. so, we can go into a little bit of open  space and then back into a sealed chamber, and presss the airlock button, and its ok.

titan ae. the movie has a scene like that, they jump out into space and use the un,m fir extinguisehr thing, remember&gt;?

go see that movie, its in the first 30 minutes of it
mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought the article would say, you can survive out there just fine.</p>
<p>and the movies were fake , about blowing up</p>
<p>ok, but you really do blow up</p>
<p>i see.</p>
<p>well, it takes 2 minutes ot blow up.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s not long.  well wait a minute that s kinda like being under water.<br />
so thats a nice way of seeing it, if you go under, you have to come back up for air. so, we can go into a little bit of open  space and then back into a sealed chamber, and presss the airlock button, and its ok.</p>
<p>titan ae. the movie has a scene like that, they jump out into space and use the un,m fir extinguisehr thing, remember&gt;?</p>
<p>go see that movie, its in the first 30 minutes of it<br />
mike</p>
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		<title>By: michaeljlogin1988@lycos.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats crazy

basically what i imagined.

nice to know. haha

thats crazy. the near future, we can use this knowledge

yeah thats ..damn....  interesting,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats crazy</p>
<p>basically what i imagined.</p>
<p>nice to know. haha</p>
<p>thats crazy. the near future, we can use this knowledge</p>
<p>yeah thats ..damn&#8230;.  interesting,</p>
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		<title>By: Turbosinaboy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]sunshowers said: &quot;I have always wondered about this ever since I saw a movie where there was a dude astronaut and a chick astronaut in love,[/quote]

Mission to Mars.

And the astronaut chick was a very Hot astronaut: Connie Nielsen.

I was wondering it that suddenly frozing would be possible, but I had a hope that there was a little amount of time before any damage could be caused to a human body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]sunshowers said: &#8220;I have always wondered about this ever since I saw a movie where there was a dude astronaut and a chick astronaut in love,[/quote]</p>
<p>Mission to Mars.</p>
<p>And the astronaut chick was a very Hot astronaut: Connie Nielsen.</p>
<p>I was wondering it that suddenly frozing would be possible, but I had a hope that there was a little amount of time before any damage could be caused to a human body.</p>
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		<title>By: sunshowers</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always wondered about this ever since I saw a movie where there was a dude astronaut and a chick astronaut in love, and there was this ridiculous scene where they were using their little jets to get around in space.  They were trying to retrieve some vital piece of equipment (some kind of tool needed to repair the shuttle) when the dude astronaut realized that if they went any further they wouldn&#039;t have enough oxygen to get back to the shuttle.  In an act selfless heroism he told the chick astronaut to stay put while he went to get the tool.  As he was jetting away, she realized what was happening and began to go after him.  NOOOOOO, he cried!  I did this to save you!!  She hesitated, and before she could make up her mind what to do, he made the decision for her - he &quot;tossed&quot; the tool to her and then took off his helmet, and within seconds his head was frozen solid.   Alone, she watched his frozen face turn away as his body tumbled into the infinite darkness.

My memory might not be exactly accurate, but that&#039;s how I remember it.  And I remember being fascinated!  But after reading this article, I see that they were dead wrong.  Yeesh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always wondered about this ever since I saw a movie where there was a dude astronaut and a chick astronaut in love, and there was this ridiculous scene where they were using their little jets to get around in space.  They were trying to retrieve some vital piece of equipment (some kind of tool needed to repair the shuttle) when the dude astronaut realized that if they went any further they wouldn&#8217;t have enough oxygen to get back to the shuttle.  In an act selfless heroism he told the chick astronaut to stay put while he went to get the tool.  As he was jetting away, she realized what was happening and began to go after him.  NOOOOOO, he cried!  I did this to save you!!  She hesitated, and before she could make up her mind what to do, he made the decision for her &#8211; he &#8220;tossed&#8221; the tool to her and then took off his helmet, and within seconds his head was frozen solid.   Alone, she watched his frozen face turn away as his body tumbled into the infinite darkness.</p>
<p>My memory might not be exactly accurate, but that&#8217;s how I remember it.  And I remember being fascinated!  But after reading this article, I see that they were dead wrong.  Yeesh!</p>
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