Comments on: Prepare for Ludicrous Speed http://www.damninteresting.com/prepare-for-ludicrous-speed/ A collection of Damn Interesting things Sat, 11 Feb 2012 01:49:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: glhayman http://www.damninteresting.com/prepare-for-ludicrous-speed/#comment-24354 glhayman Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:36:02 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=337#comment-24354 If you can negate mass, then you can reduce your rest mass to zero. Then you would exist as light which seems to have no trouble travelling at the speed of light. Furthermore, perhaps velocity c is limited due to electromagnetic principles, much like the speed of sound is related to air. By influencing the electromagnetic fields of a region of space/time it would be possible to eliminate this electromagnetic drag. It may even be possible to suck the fabric of space/time, or electromagnetodynamic fields into some type of engine, and expell it out. Like a jet engine for electromagnetic field or pure space/time, instead of air. There are many possibilities, and many more theories than just Heim's suggesting this is indeed possible, and maybe much simpler than you may think. If you can negate mass, then you can reduce your rest mass to zero. Then you would exist as light which seems to have no trouble travelling at the speed of light.
Furthermore, perhaps velocity c is limited due to electromagnetic principles, much like the speed of sound is related to air. By influencing the electromagnetic fields of a region of space/time it would be possible to eliminate this electromagnetic drag.
It may even be possible to suck the fabric of space/time, or electromagnetodynamic fields into some type of engine, and expell it out. Like a jet engine for electromagnetic field or pure space/time, instead of air.
There are many possibilities, and many more theories than just Heim’s suggesting this is indeed possible, and maybe much simpler than you may think.

]]> By: Mirage_GSM http://www.damninteresting.com/prepare-for-ludicrous-speed/#comment-24329 Mirage_GSM Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:16:12 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=337#comment-24329 [quote]glhayman said: "With enough power available these increases and decreases in inertia can be large and occur rapidily. Thus speed becomes meaningless. A mass can be made to jump from point to point without passing through the intervening space. How can you measure speed when the travel time is instantaneous? It can "speed" up or slow down, instantly, in whatever direction the field is applied, as fast as you can throw the switch."[/quote] Even if it were possible to negate inertia by some means, that does not mean that travel would be instantaneous. Any body of mass would still be subject to the effects of relativity. On a related matter, the closer a body gets to the speed of light, the more its mass increases, which would probably cause your hypothetic technique to consume exponentially more energy. [quote]glhayman said: “With enough power available these increases and decreases in inertia can be large and occur rapidily. Thus speed becomes meaningless. A mass can be made to jump from point to point without passing through the intervening space. How can you measure speed when the travel time is instantaneous? It can “speed” up or slow down, instantly, in whatever direction the field is applied, as fast as you can throw the switch.”[/quote]
Even if it were possible to negate inertia by some means, that does not mean that travel would be instantaneous. Any body of mass would still be subject to the effects of relativity.
On a related matter, the closer a body gets to the speed of light, the more its mass increases, which would probably cause your hypothetic technique to consume exponentially more energy.

]]> By: glhayman http://www.damninteresting.com/prepare-for-ludicrous-speed/#comment-24320 glhayman Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:56:33 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=337#comment-24320 I firmly believe there are other ways to travel extreme distances in space than rocket or deadalus type devices. The technique involves a direct relationship between certain configurations of electromagnetic fields and inertia. Constructive vibrations would essentially increase inertia, whereas destructive vibrations would decrease inertia. With enough power available these increases and decreases in inertia can be large and occur rapidily. Thus speed becomes meaningless. A mass can be made to jump from point to point without passing through the intervening space. How can you measure speed when the travel time is instantaneous? It can "speed" up or slow down, instantly, in whatever direction the field is applied, as fast as you can throw the switch. So the problem is not just to prove the theoretical and mathematical possibility of these types of propulsion systems but you equally expect said discover of such information to then become adept at business( research money ) and securing capital for an entirely theoretical device, actually build a prototype using some wharehouse, designing all the relevant components from scratch( engineering ) , testing it, and marketing it. If you could not do such a thing yourself, how can you expect it of another? This is a huge undertaking which will require considerable effort on the part of many individuals working together as a team. Not likely to happen given Earth's current social attitudes of serving self over serving others. We can't go to deep space because most human beings cannot even fathom the concept of deep space, nor do they even care to fathom it. It is far easier to quickly laugh and outrite dismiss the idea, even if the individual actually has no knowledge of the subject nor how it would be realized, other than science fiction, traditional dogmas and crackpot disinformation. I firmly believe there are other ways to travel extreme distances in space than rocket or deadalus type devices.
The technique involves a direct relationship between certain configurations of electromagnetic fields and inertia. Constructive vibrations would essentially increase inertia, whereas destructive vibrations would decrease inertia.
With enough power available these increases and decreases in inertia can be large and occur rapidily. Thus speed becomes meaningless. A mass can be made to jump from point to point without passing through the intervening space. How can you measure speed when the travel time is instantaneous? It can “speed” up or slow down, instantly, in whatever direction the field is applied, as fast as you can throw the switch.

So the problem is not just to prove the theoretical and mathematical possibility of these types of propulsion systems but you equally expect said discover of such information to then become adept at business( research money ) and securing capital for an entirely theoretical device, actually build a prototype using some wharehouse, designing all the relevant components from scratch( engineering ) , testing it, and marketing it. If you could not do such a thing yourself, how can you expect it of another?

This is a huge undertaking which will require considerable effort on the part of many individuals working together as a team. Not likely to happen given Earth’s current social attitudes of serving self over serving others. We can’t go to deep space because most human beings cannot even fathom the concept of deep space, nor do they even care to fathom it. It is far easier to quickly laugh and outrite dismiss the idea, even if the individual actually has no knowledge of the subject nor how it would be realized, other than science fiction, traditional dogmas and crackpot disinformation.

]]> By: michaeljlogin1988@lycos.com http://www.damninteresting.com/prepare-for-ludicrous-speed/#comment-23991 michaeljlogin1988@lycos.com Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:39:43 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=337#comment-23991 bullshit theory prove your shit and make an engine, or shut up at least werner von braun, built a fucking missile. stuck some guys in and it flew just fine. the german scientists from ww2 k fine, so do the reaserch and make the engine. i want to go to mars in 5 fucking hours. bullshit either way you have to slow down, morons, when you get there. if you re goingb ta eth speed of light just what are your ways of slowing down again, huh>? so that has to be figured in, the ability to brake or slow down , when yore going fast. by the way thats way too fast, mars in 2 weeks is just fine. again, how to slow down. and keep working in the speeding up part as well, bullshit theory
prove your shit and make an engine, or shut up

at least werner von braun, built a fucking missile.
stuck some guys in and it flew just fine.
the german scientists from ww2

k fine, so do the reaserch and make the engine. i want to go to mars in 5 fucking hours. bullshit either way
you have to slow down, morons, when you get there. if you re goingb ta eth speed of light just what are your ways of slowing down again, huh>?

so that has to be figured in, the ability to brake or slow down , when yore going fast. by the way thats way too fast, mars in 2 weeks is just fine.
again, how to slow down.
and keep working in the speeding up part as well,

]]> By: nonsequitur http://www.damninteresting.com/prepare-for-ludicrous-speed/#comment-23610 nonsequitur Sat, 27 Dec 2008 06:06:52 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=337#comment-23610 The article I understood (DI by the way!). However, my brain has started hemoraging from the posts......Besides, the theory of relativity was based on a false observation. Plug refraction and diffusion into the basic equations and travelling FTL is not a problem. Ballpoint Pens! The article I understood (DI by the way!). However, my brain has started hemoraging from the posts……Besides, the theory of relativity was based on a false observation. Plug refraction and diffusion into the basic equations and travelling FTL is not a problem. Ballpoint Pens!

]]> By: Socacrates http://www.damninteresting.com/prepare-for-ludicrous-speed/#comment-23001 Socacrates Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:43:19 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=337#comment-23001 O.0 Thevy Gone To Plaid O.0 Thevy Gone To Plaid

]]> By: JohnSimpson http://www.damninteresting.com/prepare-for-ludicrous-speed/#comment-21691 JohnSimpson Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:13:00 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=337#comment-21691 I'm not overly familiar with this theory, but, in general, if a theory actually makes sense and gives genuine predictions, it isn't ignored out of spite by science at large. If this theory could actually unambiguously do the things its proponents claim it can, there would be more than 5 people in the world working on it. On a related note, every physical theory proposal to ever include extra non-observable dimensions has failed, either because it has made predictions which directly contradict experiment (Kaluza-Klein) or because the ambiguity associated with free parameters in the theory (such as coupling constants and ways to "wrap up" the extra dimensions) leads to a landscape of theories, thus completely removing the theory's ability to make unique predictions about our world (String Theory, Anthropic reasoning, ect.) At a first glance, this theory seem to be some sort of cross between a genuine proposal for quantum gravity and the hilarious "G.U.I.T.A.R. theory" which claimed to be able to predict all fundamental masses and do all sorts of magical calculations whilst its dim-witted creator stumbled over ways to make it look like he wasn't inserting the numbers beforehand. I’m not overly familiar with this theory, but, in general, if a theory actually makes sense and gives genuine predictions, it isn’t ignored out of spite by science at large. If this theory could actually unambiguously do the things its proponents claim it can, there would be more than 5 people in the world working on it.

On a related note, every physical theory proposal to ever include extra non-observable dimensions has failed, either because it has made predictions which directly contradict experiment (Kaluza-Klein) or because the ambiguity associated with free parameters in the theory (such as coupling constants and ways to “wrap up” the extra dimensions) leads to a landscape of theories, thus completely removing the theory’s ability to make unique predictions about our world (String Theory, Anthropic reasoning, ect.)

At a first glance, this theory seem to be some sort of cross between a genuine proposal for quantum gravity and the hilarious “G.U.I.T.A.R. theory” which claimed to be able to predict all fundamental masses and do all sorts of magical calculations whilst its dim-witted creator stumbled over ways to make it look like he wasn’t inserting the numbers beforehand.

]]> By: Akira_Fudo http://www.damninteresting.com/prepare-for-ludicrous-speed/#comment-21280 Akira_Fudo Wed, 07 May 2008 01:07:26 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=337#comment-21280 [quote]roguecoder said: "A comment on time travel: It seems to me that most people discussing this domain have a view of time that is warped by human experiential limitations (understandably so). Maybe the generally held concept of time could better be stated as a "sequence of state changes", and the human experience would add "and the memory of that sequence in part or in whole". Most of the explanations of Relativity Theory that I have heard are constrained by trying to warp this to something meaningful to the way we, as humans, can sense and think. If you remove that limitation from the equation, issues like time travel become ludicrous concepts. Time is not something to be "travelled" in. It is merely a human conceived way to describe a sequence of changes to the univers. Yes it is most definitely possible to record state changes in simple objects and replay or reset them to some known state (at least at a very small scale). One could consider calling this highly localised "going back in time". Although doing this on the scale of the universe is probably impossible if you are of the school of thought that only a universe sized object could compute the universe. Yes it is possible to speed up the rate at which a human senses state changes relative to the rate of ageing (state change) for that human. Which could be called "going forward in time". However these concepts of "time travel" are very different to those evoked by many descriptions of relativity."[/quote] yeah, exactly my point. by the way... i always can put things to travel in time.... my videos!! just press reverse and they go back in time, how crazy is that!!! thats for the guy who said time is real and not a conception of thigs... seriously, a minute last 60 seconds only because a bunch o people decided to make it that way, if we "made" something its not expectable to all the things in the universe become dependant of it. just open your minds and stop the overthinking. [quote]roguecoder said: “A comment on time travel:
It seems to me that most people discussing this domain have a view of time that is warped by human experiential limitations (understandably so).
Maybe the generally held concept of time could better be stated as a “sequence of state changes”, and the human experience would add “and the memory of that sequence in part or in whole”.
Most of the explanations of Relativity Theory that I have heard are constrained by trying to warp this to something meaningful to the way we, as humans, can sense and think. If you remove that limitation from the equation, issues like time travel become ludicrous concepts. Time is not something to be “travelled” in. It is merely a human conceived way to describe a sequence of changes to the univers.
Yes it is most definitely possible to record state changes in simple objects and replay or reset them to some known state (at least at a very small scale). One could consider calling this highly localised “going back in time”. Although doing this on the scale of the universe is probably impossible if you are of the school of thought that only a universe sized object could compute the universe.
Yes it is possible to speed up the rate at which a human senses state changes relative to the rate of ageing (state change) for that human. Which could be called “going forward in time”.
However these concepts of “time travel” are very different to those evoked by many descriptions of relativity.”[/quote]

yeah, exactly my point.

by the way… i always can put things to travel in time…. my videos!! just press reverse and they go back in time, how crazy is that!!!

thats for the guy who said time is real and not a conception of thigs… seriously, a minute last 60 seconds only because a bunch o people decided to make it that way, if we “made” something its not expectable to all the things in the universe become dependant of it.

just open your minds and stop the overthinking.

]]> By: Shandooga http://www.damninteresting.com/prepare-for-ludicrous-speed/#comment-19860 Shandooga Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:26:31 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=337#comment-19860 [quote]zero-kill said: "...the possibility of having life on other planets is around 67% within our own galaxy"[/quote] And upon what do you base this? There hasn't been a bona-fide discovery of life anywhere outside of earth. Earth isn't even 67% of the solar system! What the hell are you talking about? [quote]zero-kill said: “…the possibility of having life on other planets is around 67% within our own galaxy”[/quote]

And upon what do you base this? There hasn’t been a bona-fide discovery of life anywhere outside of earth. Earth isn’t even 67% of the solar system! What the hell are you talking about?

]]> By: Shandooga http://www.damninteresting.com/prepare-for-ludicrous-speed/#comment-19859 Shandooga Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:24:30 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=337#comment-19859 Going to deep space is such a stupid idea I can hardly find the words to express it. At least Mars would be somewhat interesting for a few minutes (assuming nothing goes wrong with your air supply) but if there were one other inhabitable planet out there, what are the odds of finding it on the first try? Tenth? 100th? There isn't enough earth to supply the materials for enough ships to find it but keep having that dream where Neverlution is real and you get to be your own god. Going to deep space is such a stupid idea I can hardly find the words to express it. At least Mars would be somewhat interesting for a few minutes (assuming nothing goes wrong with your air supply) but if there were one other inhabitable planet out there, what are the odds of finding it on the first try? Tenth? 100th? There isn’t enough earth to supply the materials for enough ships to find it but keep having that dream where Neverlution is real and you get to be your own god.

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