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		<title>By: bizonbytes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found a article about someone who said to have received a document containing a memoir of a man who had a role in the escape and knows what happen after the escape.  After reading the article you could say it was plausible but again what is the credibility of that person who wrote the article in question. 

http://hubpages.com/hub/Escape-From-Alcatraz-Mystery-Revealed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found a article about someone who said to have received a document containing a memoir of a man who had a role in the escape and knows what happen after the escape.  After reading the article you could say it was plausible but again what is the credibility of that person who wrote the article in question. </p>
<p><a href="http://hubpages.com/hub/Escape-From-Alcatraz-Mystery-Revealed" rel="nofollow">http://hubpages.com/hub/Escape-From-Alcatraz-Mystery-Revealed</a></p>
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		<title>By: #AZ1441</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/the-alcatraz-redemption#comment-25015</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This case has interested me since I first saw the 1979 film starring Clint Eastwood. I&#039;ve exhausted my research of the escape over the years, hoping that one day I&#039;ll finally stumble across that ever-elusive definitive clue that answers the question we all want to know -- Did Frank Morris and the Anglin brothers make it?

I&#039;m like most of you. I want to believe, from a romantic point of view, that they made it. Most researchers and historians firmly suggest that they drowned, but offer little evidence that this was indeed their fate. I can&#039;t offer any revelational break-throughs in the case, but I do feel the need to provide my reasons for doubting the FBI&#039;s assumption that the trio drowned in the bay that night. Here are my reasons why:

1. Angel Island is approximately 2.8 kilometers directly north of Alcatraz. Historical records indicate that the tide was moving from east to west, in the direction of the Golden Gate Bridge, on the night of the escape. The winds were believed to have been blowing in the exact opposite direction of the tides, at approximately 10-15 mph. The wind may have counteracted the tidal effects. 

Whether the tide or the wind was the greater force in determining the direction that the three men went, depends on whether they were sitting on top of the raft, or partially submerged in the water. I would assume that since paddles were made, the men were not submerged in the water, clinging to the raft and using their legs as the primary propelling force.  If they had not planned to float on top of the raft, I doubt the paddles would have been constructed.

If the wind and tide counteracted one another, it is plausible that the trio could have paddled to Angel Island without a great degree of difficulty. If one force was a greater factor over the other, I would consider the tide to be the greater force. That said, had the men not fought the current, and the wind had not been a significant factor, they&#039;d have drifted toward the Golden Gate Bridge area, in a matter of 1-2 hours, and in significantly less time had they paddled with the tide.

Allen West revealed in an interview after the escape that the original plan was to use their raft to make their way to Angel Island. Morris and the Anglins could not have known which direction the tides would be moving on the night that they executed the escape plan, but I have serious doubts that Morris, who&#039;s I.Q. was reported to be 133, would not have improvised a new plan based on the direction and speed of the tide, once in the water. These men had more than adequate preparation time to construct a fool-proof plan of escape. I would highly doubt that the direction and speed of the tide had not been discussed or planned for. 

When Angel Island was searched the next day, only a paddle was found. This perhaps supports the claim that the three may have been successful in reaching Angel Island, considering the tide had been moving from east to west, toward the Golden Gate Bridge, and the paddle would likely have been carried in the direction of the bridge.

2. We know of one escaped convict, John Paul Scott, who after the June escape by Morris and the Anglins, successfully navigated the bay using inflated surgical gloves as a flotation device. He was later found at Fort Point, beneath the Golden Gate Bridge, suffering from hypothermia and exhaustion. 

Scott&#039;s escape was made in December of 1962, while Morris and the Anglins had made their escape in June of 1962, in slightly more favorable conditions. Scott proved that the bay could be navigated. He swam nearly three miles to the shore, and did so using a means of flotation that was far inferior to the raft constructed by Morris and the Anglins. The attempt by John Paul Scott, while he ultimately failed and was returned to Alcatraz after recovering in Letterman General Hospital, supports the notion that Morris and the Anglins could have successfully navigated the bay. 

3. It was reported on July 17th, 1962 that a Norwegian Freighter had seen a body floating 20-miles northwest of the Golden Gate Bridge. The crew claimed to have seen the body in July, although they did not report the sighting until October. Coroners in the area confirmed that a body could float for five weeks after drowning. The body was reported to have been badly decomposed, and could not be identified. It was determined that the body was clothed in full-length denim trousers, identical to prison issue uniforms. The FBI determined this sighting to be one of the most significant leads in the case.

There are too many holes in this bit of information that persuade me to believe that it can&#039;t be used as a significant lead in the case. First, and most importantly, the ship failed to report the sighting until October, even though the escape by Morris and the Anglins garnered a great deal of attention, and any lead, specifically one that occurred less than a month from the night of the escape, would have been highly valuable and important information to relay to the FBI, also considering the sighting happened a short distance from a U.S. penitentiary and in U.S. waters.

Secondly, the FBI presumed these three men to be dead only hours after they were discovered missing, without having any significant factual evidence to suggest they had drowned. For the FBI to suggest that a body floating in the water, which wasn&#039;t reported to them for four months, to be wearing a prison issue uniform is a bit questionable. Since the sighting had not been reported until October, the body was long gone, and the FBI had never seen it. Any information given by the FBI regarding the appearance of the body should immediately be called into question, considering that they never had the body present to identify, and had only second-hand information on a sighting that was reported four months too late. The body may have been wearing clothing similar to a prison issue uniform, and then again, may not have. The holes in this report suggest that it was nothing more than fabrication on the part of the FBI. There is no factual evidence to support their claim.

There have been other various reports such as unsigned postcards received by the Anglin brothers&#039; mother, or a call to the U.S. Marshals Office a day after the escape, from a man claiming to be John Anglin, as well as other reports that I can&#039;t help but shrug off as merely hearsay. I do believe, however, that there is at least enough substantial evidence to believe that Frank Morris and John and Clarence Anglin could very well have made it, and lived a free life for some time after the escape.  I myself, like to believe they did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This case has interested me since I first saw the 1979 film starring Clint Eastwood. I&#8217;ve exhausted my research of the escape over the years, hoping that one day I&#8217;ll finally stumble across that ever-elusive definitive clue that answers the question we all want to know &#8212; Did Frank Morris and the Anglin brothers make it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m like most of you. I want to believe, from a romantic point of view, that they made it. Most researchers and historians firmly suggest that they drowned, but offer little evidence that this was indeed their fate. I can&#8217;t offer any revelational break-throughs in the case, but I do feel the need to provide my reasons for doubting the FBI&#8217;s assumption that the trio drowned in the bay that night. Here are my reasons why:</p>
<p>1. Angel Island is approximately 2.8 kilometers directly north of Alcatraz. Historical records indicate that the tide was moving from east to west, in the direction of the Golden Gate Bridge, on the night of the escape. The winds were believed to have been blowing in the exact opposite direction of the tides, at approximately 10-15 mph. The wind may have counteracted the tidal effects. </p>
<p>Whether the tide or the wind was the greater force in determining the direction that the three men went, depends on whether they were sitting on top of the raft, or partially submerged in the water. I would assume that since paddles were made, the men were not submerged in the water, clinging to the raft and using their legs as the primary propelling force.  If they had not planned to float on top of the raft, I doubt the paddles would have been constructed.</p>
<p>If the wind and tide counteracted one another, it is plausible that the trio could have paddled to Angel Island without a great degree of difficulty. If one force was a greater factor over the other, I would consider the tide to be the greater force. That said, had the men not fought the current, and the wind had not been a significant factor, they&#8217;d have drifted toward the Golden Gate Bridge area, in a matter of 1-2 hours, and in significantly less time had they paddled with the tide.</p>
<p>Allen West revealed in an interview after the escape that the original plan was to use their raft to make their way to Angel Island. Morris and the Anglins could not have known which direction the tides would be moving on the night that they executed the escape plan, but I have serious doubts that Morris, who&#8217;s I.Q. was reported to be 133, would not have improvised a new plan based on the direction and speed of the tide, once in the water. These men had more than adequate preparation time to construct a fool-proof plan of escape. I would highly doubt that the direction and speed of the tide had not been discussed or planned for. </p>
<p>When Angel Island was searched the next day, only a paddle was found. This perhaps supports the claim that the three may have been successful in reaching Angel Island, considering the tide had been moving from east to west, toward the Golden Gate Bridge, and the paddle would likely have been carried in the direction of the bridge.</p>
<p>2. We know of one escaped convict, John Paul Scott, who after the June escape by Morris and the Anglins, successfully navigated the bay using inflated surgical gloves as a flotation device. He was later found at Fort Point, beneath the Golden Gate Bridge, suffering from hypothermia and exhaustion. </p>
<p>Scott&#8217;s escape was made in December of 1962, while Morris and the Anglins had made their escape in June of 1962, in slightly more favorable conditions. Scott proved that the bay could be navigated. He swam nearly three miles to the shore, and did so using a means of flotation that was far inferior to the raft constructed by Morris and the Anglins. The attempt by John Paul Scott, while he ultimately failed and was returned to Alcatraz after recovering in Letterman General Hospital, supports the notion that Morris and the Anglins could have successfully navigated the bay. </p>
<p>3. It was reported on July 17th, 1962 that a Norwegian Freighter had seen a body floating 20-miles northwest of the Golden Gate Bridge. The crew claimed to have seen the body in July, although they did not report the sighting until October. Coroners in the area confirmed that a body could float for five weeks after drowning. The body was reported to have been badly decomposed, and could not be identified. It was determined that the body was clothed in full-length denim trousers, identical to prison issue uniforms. The FBI determined this sighting to be one of the most significant leads in the case.</p>
<p>There are too many holes in this bit of information that persuade me to believe that it can&#8217;t be used as a significant lead in the case. First, and most importantly, the ship failed to report the sighting until October, even though the escape by Morris and the Anglins garnered a great deal of attention, and any lead, specifically one that occurred less than a month from the night of the escape, would have been highly valuable and important information to relay to the FBI, also considering the sighting happened a short distance from a U.S. penitentiary and in U.S. waters.</p>
<p>Secondly, the FBI presumed these three men to be dead only hours after they were discovered missing, without having any significant factual evidence to suggest they had drowned. For the FBI to suggest that a body floating in the water, which wasn&#8217;t reported to them for four months, to be wearing a prison issue uniform is a bit questionable. Since the sighting had not been reported until October, the body was long gone, and the FBI had never seen it. Any information given by the FBI regarding the appearance of the body should immediately be called into question, considering that they never had the body present to identify, and had only second-hand information on a sighting that was reported four months too late. The body may have been wearing clothing similar to a prison issue uniform, and then again, may not have. The holes in this report suggest that it was nothing more than fabrication on the part of the FBI. There is no factual evidence to support their claim.</p>
<p>There have been other various reports such as unsigned postcards received by the Anglin brothers&#8217; mother, or a call to the U.S. Marshals Office a day after the escape, from a man claiming to be John Anglin, as well as other reports that I can&#8217;t help but shrug off as merely hearsay. I do believe, however, that there is at least enough substantial evidence to believe that Frank Morris and John and Clarence Anglin could very well have made it, and lived a free life for some time after the escape.  I myself, like to believe they did.</p>
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		<title>By: scargib</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/the-alcatraz-redemption#comment-23581</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HOW FUNNY THINGS LIKE THIS  MAKE U WONDER AND ONLY FEW KNOW THE TRUTH AND U SAY THEY WOULD BRAG THEY DID ALRIGTH  LOL!!!!!U THINK THEY WANT THE WHOLE WORLD TO KNOW THEY ARE ON AMERICA MOST WANTED WHAT U THINK THE FAMILY GOING TO SAY SOMETHING HECK NO!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOW FUNNY THINGS LIKE THIS  MAKE U WONDER AND ONLY FEW KNOW THE TRUTH AND U SAY THEY WOULD BRAG THEY DID ALRIGTH  LOL!!!!!U THINK THEY WANT THE WHOLE WORLD TO KNOW THEY ARE ON AMERICA MOST WANTED WHAT U THINK THE FAMILY GOING TO SAY SOMETHING HECK NO!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: b12 black cat</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/the-alcatraz-redemption#comment-23414</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Their probaly ill or dead.&quot;

1.) It would be Fu*king hard to get out of their and i think their covering it up because how
the hell could u brake out of their and not be seen at all huh their was like fking gaurd post like every few meters dunno but their was spot lights and so many gaurds probaly they must of had an insider that work at alcatraz i think so or its a cover up. You&#039;d think they would find a few days after strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Their probaly ill or dead.&#8221;</p>
<p>1.) It would be Fu*king hard to get out of their and i think their covering it up because how<br />
the hell could u brake out of their and not be seen at all huh their was like fking gaurd post like every few meters dunno but their was spot lights and so many gaurds probaly they must of had an insider that work at alcatraz i think so or its a cover up. You&#8217;d think they would find a few days after strange.</p>
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		<title>By: b12 black cat</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/the-alcatraz-redemption#comment-23413</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]Gerry Matlack said: &quot;Probably a case of &quot;The first rule of prison escape club is: You don&#039;t talk about prison escape club!&quot; ;)&quot;[/quote]

How would u know? About escape club have you ever ecscaped/or been in jail?
How huh? Tell us my Email is tyler.airsoft@gmail.com
Answer my qeustion</description>
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<p>How would u know? About escape club have you ever ecscaped/or been in jail?<br />
How huh? Tell us my Email is <a href="mailto:tyler.airsoft@gmail.com">tyler.airsoft@gmail.com</a><br />
Answer my qeustion</p>
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		<title>By: blue1965</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/the-alcatraz-redemption#comment-19630</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read what was wrote after I put my comment in,WOW! how interesting to talk to the Anglin family.I still think there out there some where and I&#039;m happy that they made it.They made the FBI look bad and the prison system,it was better to say they were dead then to say they escaped and couldn&#039;t be caught.The FBI had to think otherwise if after all those years they were still looking for them,I think they know the truth to but won&#039;t admit it to the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read what was wrote after I put my comment in,WOW! how interesting to talk to the Anglin family.I still think there out there some where and I&#8217;m happy that they made it.They made the FBI look bad and the prison system,it was better to say they were dead then to say they escaped and couldn&#8217;t be caught.The FBI had to think otherwise if after all those years they were still looking for them,I think they know the truth to but won&#8217;t admit it to the public.</p>
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		<title>By: blue1965</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they made it,of course it would look better if they let some of there personal effects go that the prison thought meant something to them.Once they made it they knew they better keep there mouths shut because they were never going to get the chance again.I remember reading when the Anglin&#039;s brother&#039;s mother died,two women showed up at the funeral heavily made up with make up and wigs that no one knew.The FBI were there to and it occured after the women left and they asked the family who they were,the family said they had no idea that the FBI might of let them slip through there fingers.On the mothers birthdays and x-mas cards would show up every year unsigned(there mail was being watched).The other one Frank was suppose to be spotted living in a trailer way back in the woods in Florida(back in the late 70&#039;s early 80&#039;s),this tip was called in,the FBI went to check it out but never could locate the place.The woman that left the tip was suppose to be a very mad and angry woman-who knows.It just kind of makes me think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they made it,of course it would look better if they let some of there personal effects go that the prison thought meant something to them.Once they made it they knew they better keep there mouths shut because they were never going to get the chance again.I remember reading when the Anglin&#8217;s brother&#8217;s mother died,two women showed up at the funeral heavily made up with make up and wigs that no one knew.The FBI were there to and it occured after the women left and they asked the family who they were,the family said they had no idea that the FBI might of let them slip through there fingers.On the mothers birthdays and x-mas cards would show up every year unsigned(there mail was being watched).The other one Frank was suppose to be spotted living in a trailer way back in the woods in Florida(back in the late 70&#8217;s early 80&#8217;s),this tip was called in,the FBI went to check it out but never could locate the place.The woman that left the tip was suppose to be a very mad and angry woman-who knows.It just kind of makes me think.</p>
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		<title>By: frankmahearn</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to Disappear… Alcatraz Style

Those of you who recognize my name know that I am a skip tracer, one who finds people; however, more interesting, I teach people how to disappear. About a year ago, I met up with some famed Hollywood Producers about creating a show about me finding people who have disappeared - titled Missing.

 The producers were interested in doing cases where it was possible the missing people maybe alive. Like Whitey Bulger leader of the Winter Hill Gang, DB Cooper skyjacker and bank robber, Lord Lucan British high society and suspected murderer, Moana Pozzi Italian porn star. Out all the cases that were kicked around they were interested in brothers Clarence &amp; JW Anglin the famed escape from Alcatraz, made popular by Clint Eastwood in his portrayal of Frank Lee Morris one of the escapees. 

 My attitude was negative I figured there is no way the Anglins or Morris made it out the dark waters with their makeshift rafts, boy was I wrong. Therefore, the journey of locating the Anglin brothers begins, I started my search by locating family. 
     
The Anglin name is somewhat of a common southern name, most searches on line brought me to IMDB.com the movie site that linked the movie Escape from Alcatraz. I located an old book written titled Riddle of the Rock by Don Denevi, an interesting book that discusses the escape in detail - unlike the movie that simplified the break out.
     
The theory is that Bumpy Johnson a notorious Harlem mob boss assisted in the escape by having a boat out in the bay waiting for the escapees. However when I did my research on Bumpy Johnson he had no power left and no money to finance such a feat. In addition, the environment on the rock was hostile, amongst the different ethnic groups, though some believe that the escape plan united the groups and kept it a secret from the guards.  
     
The vital hope amongst the prisoners was that if the escapees made it out alive, they perhaps would shine light on the horrible conditions in Alcatraz. The big house was filled with small cells, no exercise and high carbohydrate diets to keep the inmates lazy although the Warden allowed painting on canvas.
     
After days of spinning my skip tracing wheels, I was unsuccessful in locating any of the Anglin family members. Sometimes when one skip traces the simple things are forgotten. I finally hit www.ancestry.com and start posting that I am a writer searching for Anglin family members. A few days later, I get an email from a woman who knows the oldest brother and patriarch of the family. I will refer to him as Man a family nickname. 
    
I dial Man’s cell phone number and an easy southern voice answers. I tell him my story that I am working with some producers who want to do a TV show about his brothers. Of course, I leave out the part that we are looking to capture them. Man agrees to meet me at a nearby Arby’s restaurant the following day.

The next day I arrive at the Arby’s restaurant about forty minutes early, checking out the scene. I wasn’t sure what to expect from Man or other family members. When you’re a skip tracer being paranoid at times is your best tool. The paranoia can keep you one-step ahead. After assessing that, all was cool I walk in a sit down, shortly after walks in the kindest looking person I ever met, Man brother to JW and Clarence. 
     
As Man was sitting down, he asked if I was going to make him rich and famous, I laughed. Although Man was not joking, he told me how the media pretty much used him and spit him out. He told me everyone else made money off his brother’s infamy but the Anglin family never received a dime from books, TV shows and movies made. My answer was simple, how bout we start with a cup of coffee I am buying. Man smiled, he preferred bottle water. 

I wanted to know about the brothers, how they found themselves in a place like Alcatraz. Clarence and JW robbed a bank in Alabama, what most people do not realize is a third brother was with them and the supposed ringleader Alfred Anglin. Man told me that Alfred was always in trouble and prior to the bank robbery in Alabama Alfred was on the lamb for several years living in the middle of Florida working a farm picking fruit and vegetables. 
 
While hiding out in Florida Alfred fell in love with a sixteen-year-old beauty named Jeanette. Like Romeo and Juliet it was a forbidden love, the couple crossed the state line and married. 

 Not far from the Arby’s restaurant is a small graveyard with Alfred’s headstone and an old photo of Alfred and Jeanette announcing their marriage for all to see, quite brazen for a man on the run. That was just the way Alfred was, he feared nothing and wanted to give his new bride more in life so he devised a plan. 
     
While Alfred was picking fruit under the hot Florida sun, Clarence was working a road gang somewhere around Ft. Meyers. Turns out Clarence’s mother Rachel and another of her sons’ went to visit Clarence in the jail. Clarence told them not to come next week that he would be visiting them at home. The mother and brother shrugged it off to Clarence’s usual banter. 
     
The following week, Clarence true to his word escaped the road gang with two other prisoners. Clarence was barefoot and made his way up the Gulf Coast, wading and swimming for more than sixty miles. 
     
Man told me that Clarence and JW were thick as thieves and since childhood, they had a unique way of communicating between each other, secret destination to meet up at, phone calls with certain amount of hang-ups determined locations. JW received such a message and met up with Clarence when he escaped the Florida road gang and took him to stay with Alfred on the farm.  Farm life was no life for Clarence, he had a tough edge to him and preferred easy money for the day as opposed to a weekly paycheck also picking fruit never paid that much.  

The plan, Man told me that originally, Clarence and Alfred were going to rob the bank in Alabama, and originally JW wanted no part of the crime. JW was a ladies man, sharp dressed and loved fast cars. A fast car was needed for the bank robbery, JW refused to lend his car and eventually decided that he would go along and drive the getaway car. What the brothers did not know was Alabama supposedly still had the death penalty for bank robbery. 

My meetings with Man became weekly, more like a Tuesday with Morrie but in an Arby’s sipping bad coffee and him the usual water. Man was always cautious about how he answered my questions; in his late seventies, he was sharp. One time he was bold and told me he had to watch what he said, he didn’t want to get in any type of trouble. Not sure, what he meant I pushed on, but his big southern smile always brought the conversation to another topic. 

In another meeting with Man, he implied that I might be a US Marshal trying to capture his brothers and wanted to know if I was wired. I told him I was not, he asked me to take off my shirt and prove it to him. That afternoon in the Arby’s I stood and took off my shirt as the patrons looked at me as if I was crazy. Man, pulled out a business card of a US Marshal, forty years after the escape the US Marshals actually approached Man and asked him to take a polygraph test. They picked him up from his small lot where several trailers housed Man and a few siblings. The Marshal drove him to an office asked him thirteen questions, drove him back home and never discussed the results of the test. 

The bank robbery, JW drives his brother up to the bank door. Clarence and Alfred enter the bank a toy gun is used a woman near faints. The two brothers stop the robbery and give her a glass of water - about 19k is stolen. Eventually the brothers are apprehended in Ohio. Less than 600 were spent from the loot. All three brothers were found guilty. Alfred was sent back to Atlanta since he owed the state time for his prior escape. JW and Clarence went to Leavenworth and eventually Alcatraz because of a foiled escape. 

Fast forward Alcatraz June 11, 1962 Allen West the mastermind behind the Alcatraz escape is unable to exit his cell, JW, Clarence and Frank Lee Morris escape into the dark waters supposedly never to be seen again. 

After the escape, Man told me that he was visiting Alfred in the penitentiary and in the prison bathroom Alfred said he received a message from Clarence and that he knew where the brothers were holed up and he was going to break out and meet up with the pair. Alfred true to his words attempted to escape prison only to be killed by electrocution. 
Long after the Alcatraz, escape there have been several sightings and assumed correspondence from JW and Clarence. The smoking gun by Hollywood standards would be a postcard that arrived one day from Brazil, written in Clarence’s writing. Every year on the mother’s birthday, she received two dozen red roses with unsigned cards. The roses stop upon her death.

At times Man would open up and bring me closer to a world he shared with no one, not even his own siblings. They joke about if anyone knew the whereabouts, Man would know. I asked to see the postcard from Brazil, however, a week later Man told me the card is gone no one can find it. I offered him twenty thousand dollars just to look at the mysterious correspondence. Man smiled and again in that polite southern voice - it was misplaced.

Some years ago, Unsolved Mysteries did a segment about the Anglin brothers; I had the good fortune of meeting the Director of that segment who was now one of the producers I was working with. We flew together to meet up with the US Marshal that worked the tips from Unsolved Mysteries. 

1. A woman called in claiming to have met Clarence Anglin after the escape at a barbecue. She claimed he was with a teen girl named Rachel, strangely enough that was the name of the Anglins mothers. The woman claimed that she also visited the home of Clarence in Georgia and mentioned particular features about Clarence that only would have been recognized in person. 

2. In the same area of Georgia, a bank was robbed and the MO was similar to the Anglin bank robbery in Alabama. What is so interesting is the Georgia bank robbery is in the same town where the Anglins hail from. Mike the producer told me when he was shooting the Unsolved Mysteries segment he had the wanted posters of Clarence and JW faxed to a hotel managers office, the manager remarked that the faces looked like the guy who robbed the bank a few years back in Georgia. 

3. The US Marshal met with another woman who claimed she was on her father’s ranch in Texas when several men showed up who were assisting a man being smuggled into Mexico. Her father claimed it was one of the Anglin brothers.

4. We learned that only a few years back the US Marshals received a tip that one of the Anglin brothers was in Brazil. The US Marshals went down to Brazil and got a confirmation from a local bartender that one of the brothers was there. Eventually the trail went cold. 

Mike and I eventually made our way to meet Man but first stopped in a local diner. We started talking with a few locals, one specifically who knew the family well. He told us what most people do not know is that one of the Anglin siblings was out in California during the escape and not far from the rock - information not in the FBI file.

The FBI file is an interesting piece of work, the attitude is summed up that most likely the trio drowned in the bay. Across the bay was a community of people known as the colony, these were family members of inmates locked up in Alcatraz. There is no record of the FBI ever speaking to members of the colony. 

We picked Man up and he gave us a grand tour of where the Anglins grew up, from back woods swimming holes, to back roads where JW raced his Thunderbird. Man told stories of JW being a ladies man, dressing like a fancy preacher, Clarence being tough as nail and Alfred, well Alfred was just destined for trouble. Mike and I were hoping to get that smoking gun it never came. 

Either way Hollywood passed on my show titled Missing, to them there was no smoking gun. The secret of Clarence and JW still hide behind the kind smile of a gentle man named Man. Through my search, I learned of things that are best left unsaid, things that imply or point to the strong possibilities of life after Alcatraz for JW and Clarence.  

To me it was a great experience to dive so deep in the world of such a mystery - that will never be solved or at least not yet! That was the last time I saw Man and that’s how you disappear Alcatraz style.

Frank M. Ahearn
www.disappear.info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to Disappear… Alcatraz Style</p>
<p>Those of you who recognize my name know that I am a skip tracer, one who finds people; however, more interesting, I teach people how to disappear. About a year ago, I met up with some famed Hollywood Producers about creating a show about me finding people who have disappeared &#8211; titled Missing.</p>
<p> The producers were interested in doing cases where it was possible the missing people maybe alive. Like Whitey Bulger leader of the Winter Hill Gang, DB Cooper skyjacker and bank robber, Lord Lucan British high society and suspected murderer, Moana Pozzi Italian porn star. Out all the cases that were kicked around they were interested in brothers Clarence &amp; JW Anglin the famed escape from Alcatraz, made popular by Clint Eastwood in his portrayal of Frank Lee Morris one of the escapees. </p>
<p> My attitude was negative I figured there is no way the Anglins or Morris made it out the dark waters with their makeshift rafts, boy was I wrong. Therefore, the journey of locating the Anglin brothers begins, I started my search by locating family. </p>
<p>The Anglin name is somewhat of a common southern name, most searches on line brought me to IMDB.com the movie site that linked the movie Escape from Alcatraz. I located an old book written titled Riddle of the Rock by Don Denevi, an interesting book that discusses the escape in detail &#8211; unlike the movie that simplified the break out.</p>
<p>The theory is that Bumpy Johnson a notorious Harlem mob boss assisted in the escape by having a boat out in the bay waiting for the escapees. However when I did my research on Bumpy Johnson he had no power left and no money to finance such a feat. In addition, the environment on the rock was hostile, amongst the different ethnic groups, though some believe that the escape plan united the groups and kept it a secret from the guards.  </p>
<p>The vital hope amongst the prisoners was that if the escapees made it out alive, they perhaps would shine light on the horrible conditions in Alcatraz. The big house was filled with small cells, no exercise and high carbohydrate diets to keep the inmates lazy although the Warden allowed painting on canvas.</p>
<p>After days of spinning my skip tracing wheels, I was unsuccessful in locating any of the Anglin family members. Sometimes when one skip traces the simple things are forgotten. I finally hit <a href="http://www.ancestry.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ancestry.com</a> and start posting that I am a writer searching for Anglin family members. A few days later, I get an email from a woman who knows the oldest brother and patriarch of the family. I will refer to him as Man a family nickname. </p>
<p>I dial Man’s cell phone number and an easy southern voice answers. I tell him my story that I am working with some producers who want to do a TV show about his brothers. Of course, I leave out the part that we are looking to capture them. Man agrees to meet me at a nearby Arby’s restaurant the following day.</p>
<p>The next day I arrive at the Arby’s restaurant about forty minutes early, checking out the scene. I wasn’t sure what to expect from Man or other family members. When you’re a skip tracer being paranoid at times is your best tool. The paranoia can keep you one-step ahead. After assessing that, all was cool I walk in a sit down, shortly after walks in the kindest looking person I ever met, Man brother to JW and Clarence. </p>
<p>As Man was sitting down, he asked if I was going to make him rich and famous, I laughed. Although Man was not joking, he told me how the media pretty much used him and spit him out. He told me everyone else made money off his brother’s infamy but the Anglin family never received a dime from books, TV shows and movies made. My answer was simple, how bout we start with a cup of coffee I am buying. Man smiled, he preferred bottle water. </p>
<p>I wanted to know about the brothers, how they found themselves in a place like Alcatraz. Clarence and JW robbed a bank in Alabama, what most people do not realize is a third brother was with them and the supposed ringleader Alfred Anglin. Man told me that Alfred was always in trouble and prior to the bank robbery in Alabama Alfred was on the lamb for several years living in the middle of Florida working a farm picking fruit and vegetables. </p>
<p>While hiding out in Florida Alfred fell in love with a sixteen-year-old beauty named Jeanette. Like Romeo and Juliet it was a forbidden love, the couple crossed the state line and married. </p>
<p> Not far from the Arby’s restaurant is a small graveyard with Alfred’s headstone and an old photo of Alfred and Jeanette announcing their marriage for all to see, quite brazen for a man on the run. That was just the way Alfred was, he feared nothing and wanted to give his new bride more in life so he devised a plan. </p>
<p>While Alfred was picking fruit under the hot Florida sun, Clarence was working a road gang somewhere around Ft. Meyers. Turns out Clarence’s mother Rachel and another of her sons’ went to visit Clarence in the jail. Clarence told them not to come next week that he would be visiting them at home. The mother and brother shrugged it off to Clarence’s usual banter. </p>
<p>The following week, Clarence true to his word escaped the road gang with two other prisoners. Clarence was barefoot and made his way up the Gulf Coast, wading and swimming for more than sixty miles. </p>
<p>Man told me that Clarence and JW were thick as thieves and since childhood, they had a unique way of communicating between each other, secret destination to meet up at, phone calls with certain amount of hang-ups determined locations. JW received such a message and met up with Clarence when he escaped the Florida road gang and took him to stay with Alfred on the farm.  Farm life was no life for Clarence, he had a tough edge to him and preferred easy money for the day as opposed to a weekly paycheck also picking fruit never paid that much.  </p>
<p>The plan, Man told me that originally, Clarence and Alfred were going to rob the bank in Alabama, and originally JW wanted no part of the crime. JW was a ladies man, sharp dressed and loved fast cars. A fast car was needed for the bank robbery, JW refused to lend his car and eventually decided that he would go along and drive the getaway car. What the brothers did not know was Alabama supposedly still had the death penalty for bank robbery. </p>
<p>My meetings with Man became weekly, more like a Tuesday with Morrie but in an Arby’s sipping bad coffee and him the usual water. Man was always cautious about how he answered my questions; in his late seventies, he was sharp. One time he was bold and told me he had to watch what he said, he didn’t want to get in any type of trouble. Not sure, what he meant I pushed on, but his big southern smile always brought the conversation to another topic. </p>
<p>In another meeting with Man, he implied that I might be a US Marshal trying to capture his brothers and wanted to know if I was wired. I told him I was not, he asked me to take off my shirt and prove it to him. That afternoon in the Arby’s I stood and took off my shirt as the patrons looked at me as if I was crazy. Man, pulled out a business card of a US Marshal, forty years after the escape the US Marshals actually approached Man and asked him to take a polygraph test. They picked him up from his small lot where several trailers housed Man and a few siblings. The Marshal drove him to an office asked him thirteen questions, drove him back home and never discussed the results of the test. </p>
<p>The bank robbery, JW drives his brother up to the bank door. Clarence and Alfred enter the bank a toy gun is used a woman near faints. The two brothers stop the robbery and give her a glass of water &#8211; about 19k is stolen. Eventually the brothers are apprehended in Ohio. Less than 600 were spent from the loot. All three brothers were found guilty. Alfred was sent back to Atlanta since he owed the state time for his prior escape. JW and Clarence went to Leavenworth and eventually Alcatraz because of a foiled escape. </p>
<p>Fast forward Alcatraz June 11, 1962 Allen West the mastermind behind the Alcatraz escape is unable to exit his cell, JW, Clarence and Frank Lee Morris escape into the dark waters supposedly never to be seen again. </p>
<p>After the escape, Man told me that he was visiting Alfred in the penitentiary and in the prison bathroom Alfred said he received a message from Clarence and that he knew where the brothers were holed up and he was going to break out and meet up with the pair. Alfred true to his words attempted to escape prison only to be killed by electrocution.<br />
Long after the Alcatraz, escape there have been several sightings and assumed correspondence from JW and Clarence. The smoking gun by Hollywood standards would be a postcard that arrived one day from Brazil, written in Clarence’s writing. Every year on the mother’s birthday, she received two dozen red roses with unsigned cards. The roses stop upon her death.</p>
<p>At times Man would open up and bring me closer to a world he shared with no one, not even his own siblings. They joke about if anyone knew the whereabouts, Man would know. I asked to see the postcard from Brazil, however, a week later Man told me the card is gone no one can find it. I offered him twenty thousand dollars just to look at the mysterious correspondence. Man smiled and again in that polite southern voice &#8211; it was misplaced.</p>
<p>Some years ago, Unsolved Mysteries did a segment about the Anglin brothers; I had the good fortune of meeting the Director of that segment who was now one of the producers I was working with. We flew together to meet up with the US Marshal that worked the tips from Unsolved Mysteries. </p>
<p>1. A woman called in claiming to have met Clarence Anglin after the escape at a barbecue. She claimed he was with a teen girl named Rachel, strangely enough that was the name of the Anglins mothers. The woman claimed that she also visited the home of Clarence in Georgia and mentioned particular features about Clarence that only would have been recognized in person. </p>
<p>2. In the same area of Georgia, a bank was robbed and the MO was similar to the Anglin bank robbery in Alabama. What is so interesting is the Georgia bank robbery is in the same town where the Anglins hail from. Mike the producer told me when he was shooting the Unsolved Mysteries segment he had the wanted posters of Clarence and JW faxed to a hotel managers office, the manager remarked that the faces looked like the guy who robbed the bank a few years back in Georgia. </p>
<p>3. The US Marshal met with another woman who claimed she was on her father’s ranch in Texas when several men showed up who were assisting a man being smuggled into Mexico. Her father claimed it was one of the Anglin brothers.</p>
<p>4. We learned that only a few years back the US Marshals received a tip that one of the Anglin brothers was in Brazil. The US Marshals went down to Brazil and got a confirmation from a local bartender that one of the brothers was there. Eventually the trail went cold. </p>
<p>Mike and I eventually made our way to meet Man but first stopped in a local diner. We started talking with a few locals, one specifically who knew the family well. He told us what most people do not know is that one of the Anglin siblings was out in California during the escape and not far from the rock &#8211; information not in the FBI file.</p>
<p>The FBI file is an interesting piece of work, the attitude is summed up that most likely the trio drowned in the bay. Across the bay was a community of people known as the colony, these were family members of inmates locked up in Alcatraz. There is no record of the FBI ever speaking to members of the colony. </p>
<p>We picked Man up and he gave us a grand tour of where the Anglins grew up, from back woods swimming holes, to back roads where JW raced his Thunderbird. Man told stories of JW being a ladies man, dressing like a fancy preacher, Clarence being tough as nail and Alfred, well Alfred was just destined for trouble. Mike and I were hoping to get that smoking gun it never came. </p>
<p>Either way Hollywood passed on my show titled Missing, to them there was no smoking gun. The secret of Clarence and JW still hide behind the kind smile of a gentle man named Man. Through my search, I learned of things that are best left unsaid, things that imply or point to the strong possibilities of life after Alcatraz for JW and Clarence.  </p>
<p>To me it was a great experience to dive so deep in the world of such a mystery &#8211; that will never be solved or at least not yet! That was the last time I saw Man and that’s how you disappear Alcatraz style.</p>
<p>Frank M. Ahearn<br />
<a href="http://www.disappear.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.disappear.info</a></p>
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