Comments on: The Fall of the Eastland http://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-the-eastland/ A collection of legitimately fascinating information culled from the past, present, and anticipated future. Tue, 22 May 2012 01:30:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Trykt http://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-the-eastland/#comment-15856 Trykt Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:58:39 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=749#comment-15856 <p><span class='quote'>Collision said: "Isn't there a problem in the last line?</span></p><p><span class='quote'>"At times, society itself seems alarmingly top-heavy and precarious. Perhaps a few lifeboats would help."</span></p><p><span class='quote'>Lifeboats would make it _more_ top heavy. Or was this intended sarcastically?"</span></p><p>I'm pretty late to the party here but if you truly missed the sarcasm in that last sentence then YOU are the one aboard the failboat.</p> Collision said: “Isn’t there a problem in the last line?

“At times, society itself seems alarmingly top-heavy and precarious. Perhaps a few lifeboats would help.”

Lifeboats would make it _more_ top heavy. Or was this intended sarcastically?”

I’m pretty late to the party here but if you truly missed the sarcasm in that last sentence then YOU are the one aboard the failboat.

]]> By: edhsinc http://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-the-eastland/#comment-15236 edhsinc Sat, 26 May 2007 14:05:21 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=749#comment-15236 <p>There is no official passenger list for the <i>Eastland</i> Disaster. Unlike the <i>Titanic</i>, there was no passenger manifest the morning that boarding took place. Over 7,000 tickets had been sold for the excursion and picnic, and boarding took place on a first-come, first-served basis. The <i>Eastland</i> Disaster Historical Society, however, has been working diligently over the past 8 years and we have compiled a passenger list of over 2,300 names. The <a href="http://eastlanddisaster.org/disaster.htm" rel="nofollow"><i>Eastland</i> Disaster Passenger List</a> includes the names of the victims as well as the survivors (victims names are italicized). Please drop us an <a href="mailto:info@EastlandDisaster.org" rel="nofollow">email</a> - we would love to open a file folder for your family (or add to the one that we may already have in our archives).</p> There is no official passenger list for the Eastland Disaster. Unlike the Titanic, there was no passenger manifest the morning that boarding took place. Over 7,000 tickets had been sold for the excursion and picnic, and boarding took place on a first-come, first-served basis. The Eastland Disaster Historical Society, however, has been working diligently over the past 8 years and we have compiled a passenger list of over 2,300 names. The Eastland Disaster Passenger List includes the names of the victims as well as the survivors (victims names are italicized). Please drop us an email – we would love to open a file folder for your family (or add to the one that we may already have in our archives).

]]> By: sulkykid http://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-the-eastland/#comment-15229 sulkykid Fri, 25 May 2007 22:30:41 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=749#comment-15229 <p><span class='quote'>spoiled1981 said: "Does anyone know if there is a list of those who died, I was informed that a greatgreat aunt was on the ship and died but I don't know the name all I have is a last name."</span></p><p> I cannot find such a list online. I suspect that I may have a distant relative or two involved, but no one in the family ever mentioned it. You might inquire at www.eastlanddisaster.org or the Chicago Historical society. There is a very nice picture book from Arcadia Press called "The Eastland Disaster". 125 pages of photos with captions, lots of names, but no index. I could peruse my copy if you are willing to supply the last name.</p> spoiled1981 said: “Does anyone know if there is a list of those who died, I was informed that a greatgreat aunt was on the ship and died but I don’t know the name all I have is a last name.”

I cannot find such a list online. I suspect that I may have a distant relative or two involved, but no one in the family ever mentioned it. You might inquire at http://www.eastlanddisaster.org or the Chicago Historical society. There is a very nice picture book from Arcadia Press called “The Eastland Disaster”. 125 pages of photos with captions, lots of names, but no index. I could peruse my copy if you are willing to supply the last name.

]]> By: spoiled1981 http://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-the-eastland/#comment-15224 spoiled1981 Fri, 25 May 2007 19:39:22 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=749#comment-15224 <p>Does anyone know if there is a list of those who died, I was informed that a greatgreat aunt was on the ship and died but I don't know the name all I have is a last name.</p> Does anyone know if there is a list of those who died, I was informed that a greatgreat aunt was on the ship and died but I don’t know the name all I have is a last name.

]]> By: Spinster http://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-the-eastland/#comment-14575 Spinster Thu, 03 May 2007 21:34:42 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=749#comment-14575 <p>Just a few comments: Concrete was commonly used for patches on Great Lakes ships (please refer to salvage practices of the time) and was cheap and very readily available. </p><p> Canada, or the "Evil Empire" isn't really anywhere near Chicago, IL. Please refer to a map. There were in those days several days travel between them. The Great Lakes have a long and ignoble history of poor survival of women and children during shipwrecks. Female cooks were commonly left behind during "abandon ship" maneuvers. </p> Just a few comments: Concrete was commonly used for patches on Great Lakes ships (please refer to salvage practices of the time) and was cheap and very readily available.

Canada, or the “Evil Empire” isn’t really anywhere near Chicago, IL. Please refer to a map. There were in those days several days travel between them.

The Great Lakes have a long and ignoble history of poor survival of women and children during shipwrecks. Female cooks were commonly left behind during “abandon ship” maneuvers.

]]> By: sulkykid http://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-the-eastland/#comment-14517 sulkykid Tue, 01 May 2007 18:13:29 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=749#comment-14517 <p>"Lucky Lindy" was Lindberg's nickname, the plane was "The Spirit of St Louis". I think the plane is hanging from the ceiling in the Smithsonian museum in Washington D.C. Sorry 'bout the confusion.</p> “Lucky Lindy” was Lindberg’s nickname, the plane was “The Spirit of St Louis”. I think the plane is hanging from the ceiling in the Smithsonian museum in Washington D.C. Sorry ’bout the confusion.

]]> By: Mez http://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-the-eastland/#comment-14505 Mez Tue, 01 May 2007 16:21:04 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=749#comment-14505 <p>Ah, cheers sulkykid. I knew about Charles Lindbergh but didn't remember the name of his plane.</p> Ah, cheers sulkykid. I knew about Charles Lindbergh but didn’t remember the name of his plane.

]]> By: sulkykid http://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-the-eastland/#comment-14503 sulkykid Tue, 01 May 2007 15:51:25 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=749#comment-14503 <p>Mez: Lucky Lindy-->Charles Lindbergh, flew solo, non-stop from New York to Paris in 1927 to great fame and acclaim.</p> Mez: Lucky Lindy–>Charles Lindbergh, flew solo, non-stop from New York to Paris in 1927 to great fame and acclaim.

]]> By: Mez http://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-the-eastland/#comment-14501 Mez Tue, 01 May 2007 15:29:16 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=749#comment-14501 <p><span class='quote'>sulkykid said: "It's funny you should say that. I considered suggesting the Eastland as a DI article, but decided against it because I thought it would be "too common" and too well known. Kind of like doing a story on Lucky Lindy. I guess I am too steeped in local history. "</span></p><p>Who/what is Lucky Lindy? I'm from Australia if that excuses my ignorance.</p><p><span class='quote'>Alan Bellows said: "You are indeed correct… I was misinformed. The text has been adjusted accordingly. Thanks for helping to keep us on even keel!"</span></p><p>Yay for puns!</p><p><span class='quote'>Collision said: "Isn't there a problem in the last line?</span></p><p><span class='quote'>"At times, society itself seems alarmingly top-heavy and precarious. Perhaps a few lifeboats would help."</span></p><p><span class='quote'>Lifeboats would make it _more_ top heavy. Or was this intended sarcastically?"</span></p><p>Or maybe Alan is being deadly serious, suggesting we should overload society until it collapses.</p> sulkykid said: “It’s funny you should say that. I considered suggesting the Eastland as a DI article, but decided against it because I thought it would be “too common” and too well known. Kind of like doing a story on Lucky Lindy. I guess I am too steeped in local history. “

Who/what is Lucky Lindy? I’m from Australia if that excuses my ignorance.

Alan Bellows said: “You are indeed correct… I was misinformed. The text has been adjusted accordingly. Thanks for helping to keep us on even keel!”

Yay for puns!

Collision said: “Isn’t there a problem in the last line?

“At times, society itself seems alarmingly top-heavy and precarious. Perhaps a few lifeboats would help.”

Lifeboats would make it _more_ top heavy. Or was this intended sarcastically?”

Or maybe Alan is being deadly serious, suggesting we should overload society until it collapses.

]]> By: embryo http://www.damninteresting.com/the-fall-of-the-eastland/#comment-14385 embryo Thu, 26 Apr 2007 05:11:14 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=749#comment-14385 <p>M/S Estonia's ramp door to the car park of the ship was flooded after the locks were broken. Interesting read for anyone who's interested:</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Estonia</p> M/S Estonia’s ramp door to the car park of the ship was flooded after the locks were broken. Interesting read for anyone who’s interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Estonia

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