Comments on: The Relics of Mu http://www.damninteresting.com/the-relics-of-mu/ A collection of Damn Interesting things Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:45:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: DeLuzional http://www.damninteresting.com/the-relics-of-mu/#comment-25497 DeLuzional Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:23:46 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=725#comment-25497 [quote]James said: "It seams strange to me that this was discovered twenty years ago and it has not been studied at greater length other than by tourists. You would think some anthropologist from some university would get a grant to go study this. (Which is not that hard to do or at least not far fetched) there is a lot of money floating around out there for this kind of stuff. It has the potential to turn a lot of accepted theories on their head. I’m not saying that there is a conspiracy here but sometimes it is hard to go against an already established idea. There could be other explanations for it but the pictures that are here sure look manmade to me."[/quote] My word! Its plain to me now, "we" are not studying it because "we" built it! Top secret Gov. base.... [quote]James said: “It seams strange to me that this was discovered twenty years ago and it has not been studied at greater length other than by tourists. You would think some anthropologist from some university would get a grant to go study this. (Which is not that hard to do or at least not far fetched) there is a lot of money floating around out there for this kind of stuff. It has the potential to turn a lot of accepted theories on their head. I’m not saying that there is a conspiracy here but sometimes it is hard to go against an already established idea. There could be other explanations for it but the pictures that are here sure look manmade to me.”[/quote]
My word! Its plain to me now, “we” are not studying it because “we” built it! Top secret Gov. base….

]]> By: jackmagic http://www.damninteresting.com/the-relics-of-mu/#comment-25479 jackmagic Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:27:53 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=725#comment-25479 of course there are lost civilisations! they all moved to the centre of the earth to live with the lizard people, occasionally sending out special agents to the surface, all named 'Bush' - the key word there is special of course there are lost civilisations! they all moved to the centre of the earth to live with the lizard people, occasionally sending out special agents to the surface, all named ‘Bush’ – the key word there is special

]]> By: Mirage_GSM http://www.damninteresting.com/the-relics-of-mu/#comment-22972 Mirage_GSM Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:58:23 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=725#comment-22972 While right angles do form naturally, this area seems to have quite a few right angles very close together. I have no problem admitting our ancestors might have had the ability to create such a structure. So, while I'm not sure the site was created artificially, I think it would be worth the trouble to have a closer look with adaequate equipment. While right angles do form naturally, this area seems to have quite a few right angles very close together. I have no problem admitting our ancestors might have had the ability to create such a structure.
So, while I’m not sure the site was created artificially, I think it would be worth the trouble to have a closer look with adaequate equipment.

]]> By: Chris Anthony http://www.damninteresting.com/the-relics-of-mu/#comment-22039 Chris Anthony Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:20:34 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=725#comment-22039 [quote]HiEv said: "Well, "common sense" also tells you that ... a heavy sphere falls faster than a light sphere..."[/quote] For what it's worth, common sense is actually right here. It's just not obviously right, and the scale of its rightness is so infinitesimal as to be functionally unobservable. If sphere A masses twice as much as sphere B, it will fall faster than sphere B - but it will be accelerating at something close to (sphere B's mass)*10^-17 m/s^2 faster. (10^-17m is about 1/100 the size of a single proton, so - like I said - it's functionally unobservable. But the increase is there.) [quote]HiEv said: “Well, “common sense” also tells you that … a heavy sphere falls faster than a light sphere…”[/quote]

For what it’s worth, common sense is actually right here. It’s just not obviously right, and the scale of its rightness is so infinitesimal as to be functionally unobservable. If sphere A masses twice as much as sphere B, it will fall faster than sphere B – but it will be accelerating at something close to (sphere B’s mass)*10^-17 m/s^2 faster. (10^-17m is about 1/100 the size of a single proton, so – like I said – it’s functionally unobservable. But the increase is there.)

]]> By: HiEv http://www.damninteresting.com/the-relics-of-mu/#comment-17582 HiEv Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:42:27 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=725#comment-17582 Well, "common sense" also tells you that the Earth is flat, a heavy sphere falls faster than a light sphere, and that if X amount of a drug is good, then 2X is twice as good. All of that "common sense" is usually quite wrong when actually examined. Still these are not "perfect 90 degree angles," as you can see in the photos they're chipped and slightly rounded. Anyways, it wouldn't matter if they were formed under water or from a lost civilization, you would get the same wear pattern with either origin. Rocks both <i>can</i> and <i>do</i> break off at right angles under certain rare circumstances. See, for example, the similar <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant's_Causeway" rel="nofollow">Giant's Causeway</a> (mentioned by Leighther above) which has rocks that break off in mostly hexagonal columns. Also, I grew up near <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Tower_National_Monument" rel="nofollow">Devils Tower</a> (as seen in <i>Close Encounters of the Third Kind</i>), which has tremendous columns of rock with unusually straight edges. Both of those are natural formations, not the ruins of a lost civilization. This is why one has to be careful of "common sense," it can easily lead to error in areas with unusual, contradictory, or non-obvious information. Finding a lost civilization is a pleasant, romantic idea, but how much you like an idea does not affect what is most probable based on all of the evidence. Well, “common sense” also tells you that the Earth is flat, a heavy sphere falls faster than a light sphere, and that if X amount of a drug is good, then 2X is twice as good. All of that “common sense” is usually quite wrong when actually examined. Still these are not “perfect 90 degree angles,” as you can see in the photos they’re chipped and slightly rounded. Anyways, it wouldn’t matter if they were formed under water or from a lost civilization, you would get the same wear pattern with either origin. Rocks both can and do break off at right angles under certain rare circumstances. See, for example, the similar Giant’s Causeway (mentioned by Leighther above) which has rocks that break off in mostly hexagonal columns. Also, I grew up near Devils Tower (as seen in Close Encounters of the Third Kind), which has tremendous columns of rock with unusually straight edges. Both of those are natural formations, not the ruins of a lost civilization. This is why one has to be careful of “common sense,” it can easily lead to error in areas with unusual, contradictory, or non-obvious information.

Finding a lost civilization is a pleasant, romantic idea, but how much you like an idea does not affect what is most probable based on all of the evidence.

]]> By: Pup http://www.damninteresting.com/the-relics-of-mu/#comment-17579 Pup Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:02:18 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=725#comment-17579 They look man made, from a lost civilization maybe. I also have difficulty visualizing these improbable right angles being formed under water. The currents are so strong, how can the angles be so perfect? With so much movement they would be more rounded not perfect 90 degree angles. That's just common sense. Very cool article! They look man made, from a lost civilization maybe. I also have difficulty visualizing these improbable right angles being formed under water. The currents are so strong, how can the angles be so perfect? With so much movement they would be more rounded not perfect 90 degree angles. That’s just common sense. Very cool article!

]]> By: belyaun http://www.damninteresting.com/the-relics-of-mu/#comment-17464 belyaun Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:30:11 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=725#comment-17464 Didn't some Japanese mangaka create a manga with these ruins in it anout scuba diving... Didn’t some Japanese mangaka create a manga with these ruins in it anout scuba diving…

]]> By: EZer0 http://www.damninteresting.com/the-relics-of-mu/#comment-15085 EZer0 Tue, 22 May 2007 10:10:38 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=725#comment-15085 <p>Let us praise the Green One Cathooloo!</p> Let us praise the Green One Cathooloo!

]]> By: spaceshib http://www.damninteresting.com/the-relics-of-mu/#comment-14763 spaceshib Fri, 11 May 2007 17:42:14 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=725#comment-14763 <p><span class='quote'>inmyopinion said: "Not to be a square, but it is reminiscent of stone outcroppings where blocks where removed to make constructions.</span></p><p><span class='quote'>Such outcroppings usually will have triangular blocks taken out of them, until they assume a more-or-less pyramid shaped form, with the base (ofcourse) larger than the top. </span></p><p><span class='quote'>The cutting and location of the cutting determined by what the required dimensions where for the different stone blocks and whether the outcropping possessed uniform quality: thus the outcropping turned progressively more asymmetrical.</span></p><p><span class='quote'>See here a few small scale examples</span></p><p><span class='quote'>http://www.econ.surrey.ac.uk/staff/rpierse/photos/stone.jpg</span></p><p><span class='quote'>http://www.geocities.com/glendavidshort/sahuite.jpg</span></p><p><span class='quote'>Ofcourse, that doesnt make the story less interesting. If it isnt coincidental and stones where harvested, what was built? A city? A temple? And where is it? Logically it should be nearby."</span></p><p>i hate to be a square,</p><p>but the first pic you posted isn't the remains of quarrying, it's the intihuatana stone on macchu picchu in peru. it is used to measure the angle of the sun and predict equinoxes/solstices.</p><p>http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22Intihuatana+Stone%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta=</p> inmyopinion said: “Not to be a square, but it is reminiscent of stone outcroppings where blocks where removed to make constructions.

Such outcroppings usually will have triangular blocks taken out of them, until they assume a more-or-less pyramid shaped form, with the base (ofcourse) larger than the top.

The cutting and location of the cutting determined by what the required dimensions where for the different stone blocks and whether the outcropping possessed uniform quality: thus the outcropping turned progressively more asymmetrical.

See here a few small scale examples

http://www.econ.surrey.ac.uk/staff/rpierse/photos/stone.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/glendavidshort/sahuite.jpg

Ofcourse, that doesnt make the story less interesting. If it isnt coincidental and stones where harvested, what was built? A city? A temple? And where is it? Logically it should be nearby.”

i hate to be a square,

but the first pic you posted isn’t the remains of quarrying, it’s the intihuatana stone on macchu picchu in peru. it is used to measure the angle of the sun and predict equinoxes/solstices.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22Intihuatana+Stone%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

]]> By: Megadeus http://www.damninteresting.com/the-relics-of-mu/#comment-12840 Megadeus Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:41:51 +0000 http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=725#comment-12840 <p><span class='quote'>brienhopkins said: "Perhaps there was an rich human civilization lost and drowned in the ocean due to a catastrophic unfortunate earth quake. It's not entirely impossible. Look at the 1906 San Fransisco Earth Quake. If an earthquake of that magnitude hit a small island at sea, it would be curtains for humanity on the island. Are there, or have there been, any fault lines near the Yonaguni Monuments?"</span></p><p>Yonaguni-Shima lies almost in the middle between the Ryukyu Trench and the Philippine Trench along the most seismically active place on Earth, the Pacific Ring of Fire, which encircles the rim of the Pacific basin. Approximately 90% of the worlds earthquakes occur along the Pacific Ring of Fire. During the last Ice Age, Yonaguni, Japan, and the Philippines would have been part of the Asian continent.</p><p><span class='quote'>bibliophilia said: "This isn't exactly related, but it amazes me how many people use wikipedia as a credible source. Am I mistaken in thinking that as an opensource kind of idea that anyone can go and change, it shouldn't be taken for granted that everything wiki has to say is correct?"</span></p><p>Although it is certainly possible for just about anyone who pleases to go and change whatever they want on Wikipedia, the percentage of knowledgeable, responsible, and dedicated people tends to outweigh the number of those who unwittingly or knowingly submit misinformation and Wikipedia does restrict or revoke editing rights for IPs that repeatedly submit bad information. Furthermore, with the sheer number of dedicated editors, poor content does not tend to remain up for very long, especially on the larger entries, often being rewritten or reverted back to a previous correct version within hours or minutes. There is, of course, always a small chance you might happen to visit the entry during a time of disrepair, that is why Wikipedia encourages you to continue your research beyond the article by providing references and external links for further reading. For the most part, I find Wikipedia to be just as reliable, if not more so, than other sources of information. At least you know Wikipedia entries are a collaboration of peers, rather than the word of perhaps a single expert of unknown validity.</p> brienhopkins said: “Perhaps there was an rich human civilization lost and drowned in the ocean due to a catastrophic unfortunate earth quake. It’s not entirely impossible. Look at the 1906 San Fransisco Earth Quake. If an earthquake of that magnitude hit a small island at sea, it would be curtains for humanity on the island. Are there, or have there been, any fault lines near the Yonaguni Monuments?”

Yonaguni-Shima lies almost in the middle between the Ryukyu Trench and the Philippine Trench along the most seismically active place on Earth, the Pacific Ring of Fire, which encircles the rim of the Pacific basin. Approximately 90% of the worlds earthquakes occur along the Pacific Ring of Fire. During the last Ice Age, Yonaguni, Japan, and the Philippines would have been part of the Asian continent.

bibliophilia said: “This isn’t exactly related, but it amazes me how many people use wikipedia as a credible source. Am I mistaken in thinking that as an opensource kind of idea that anyone can go and change, it shouldn’t be taken for granted that everything wiki has to say is correct?”

Although it is certainly possible for just about anyone who pleases to go and change whatever they want on Wikipedia, the percentage of knowledgeable, responsible, and dedicated people tends to outweigh the number of those who unwittingly or knowingly submit misinformation and Wikipedia does restrict or revoke editing rights for IPs that repeatedly submit bad information. Furthermore, with the sheer number of dedicated editors, poor content does not tend to remain up for very long, especially on the larger entries, often being rewritten or reverted back to a previous correct version within hours or minutes. There is, of course, always a small chance you might happen to visit the entry during a time of disrepair, that is why Wikipedia encourages you to continue your research beyond the article by providing references and external links for further reading. For the most part, I find Wikipedia to be just as reliable, if not more so, than other sources of information. At least you know Wikipedia entries are a collaboration of peers, rather than the word of perhaps a single expert of unknown validity.

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