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		<title>By: Raedin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raedin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 04:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, after seeing these pic`s : http://www.don-simmonds.co.uk/ladybgood.htm
i see that it would be hard to restore it to where you could fly it. :&#039;(
If the dip-shits left it where it was it could be restored...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, after seeing these pic`s : <a href="http://www.don-simmonds.co.uk/ladybgood.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.don-simmonds.co.uk/ladybgood.htm</a><br />
i see that it would be hard to restore it to where you could fly it. :&#8217;(<br />
If the dip-shits left it where it was it could be restored&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Raedin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raedin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 04:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Is the B-24 in the same spot where it crashed? Is it worth trying to restore? is it owned by anyone? or could anyone go get it and restore it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Is the B-24 in the same spot where it crashed? Is it worth trying to restore? is it owned by anyone? or could anyone go get it and restore it?</p>
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		<title>By: sarainsandiego</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/the-remains-of-lady-be-good/#comment-26416</link>
		<dc:creator>sarainsandiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While following the Libya situation came across this page......wow!  I, too, found this too interesting to skip a word!
The link to the episode of Twilight Zone referred to by Robert Conner #23 above:  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqq6DaF1kbg

Many thanks, Author of This Site.  Really well written!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While following the Libya situation came across this page&#8230;&#8230;wow!  I, too, found this too interesting to skip a word!<br />
The link to the episode of Twilight Zone referred to by Robert Conner #23 above:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqq6DaF1kbg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqq6DaF1kbg</a></p>
<p>Many thanks, Author of This Site.  Really well written!</p>
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		<title>By: oldbear</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 14:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello all
I have just come across this site.
Iuse to work all over Libya and visited the LBG which had been moved to Torbruk, it was in a sorry state the last time i visited it. It was stored in a yard behind the Blind school.
The locals wanted more room in the yard and used a shovel loader on the wreck to move the bits around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all<br />
I have just come across this site.<br />
Iuse to work all over Libya and visited the LBG which had been moved to Torbruk, it was in a sorry state the last time i visited it. It was stored in a yard behind the Blind school.<br />
The locals wanted more room in the yard and used a shovel loader on the wreck to move the bits around.</p>
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		<title>By: dave88</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/the-remains-of-lady-be-good/#comment-26250</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lady Be Good is one of the great mysteries of human error and a story that absolutely absorbs a lot of people, including myself. The 1970 movie &quot;Sole Survivors&quot; is avalible online at google video. I don&#039;t think a modern film version could do much better however, I&#039;d pay to see the effort!

I&#039;ve researched the flight on and off through the years and one mysteries that nags me is the fact of speed and time. I&#039;m aware that the crew was brand new with no experince, and how this fact could cause the Nav.. officer to be confused.  It&#039;s documented that the radio op requested an airstrip HF radio bearing at or about 24:00 (midnight).   The loop attanna of the radio op could read in reverse if not operated correctly. The home bearing for the flight from Naples would have been 330 degrees. In there found location it would have indicated 150 degrees, the exact reverse of 330 degress. If you follow the 330 bearing from the airstrip it leads directly 440 miles to the crash site. From this: one can only assume the Nav officer, pilot, co-pilot and radio op all thought they were still out at sea . I find this highly unlikely. Someones alarm bells would have had to go off and I think someone did. Being the Capt. is the boss, I think he over ruled any objections made by the crew and assumed the radio direction reading of 150 should have been 330 and continued upon that heading for two more hours ending at  02:00 with fuel gone.

The fact is, that given a round trip flight time, from their base to Naples, in perfect conditions of around 6 hours and being when the radio direction was taken at 24:00, (9 hours) all the crew would have had to be out of there minds not to know they had crossed their air base and the 150 degree reading most certainly could not be in error.  At this point I can only think that the error had to be with the Capt. Any thoughts anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lady Be Good is one of the great mysteries of human error and a story that absolutely absorbs a lot of people, including myself. The 1970 movie &#8220;Sole Survivors&#8221; is avalible online at google video. I don&#8217;t think a modern film version could do much better however, I&#8217;d pay to see the effort!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve researched the flight on and off through the years and one mysteries that nags me is the fact of speed and time. I&#8217;m aware that the crew was brand new with no experince, and how this fact could cause the Nav.. officer to be confused.  It&#8217;s documented that the radio op requested an airstrip HF radio bearing at or about 24:00 (midnight).   The loop attanna of the radio op could read in reverse if not operated correctly. The home bearing for the flight from Naples would have been 330 degrees. In there found location it would have indicated 150 degrees, the exact reverse of 330 degress. If you follow the 330 bearing from the airstrip it leads directly 440 miles to the crash site. From this: one can only assume the Nav officer, pilot, co-pilot and radio op all thought they were still out at sea . I find this highly unlikely. Someones alarm bells would have had to go off and I think someone did. Being the Capt. is the boss, I think he over ruled any objections made by the crew and assumed the radio direction reading of 150 should have been 330 and continued upon that heading for two more hours ending at  02:00 with fuel gone.</p>
<p>The fact is, that given a round trip flight time, from their base to Naples, in perfect conditions of around 6 hours and being when the radio direction was taken at 24:00, (9 hours) all the crew would have had to be out of there minds not to know they had crossed their air base and the 150 degree reading most certainly could not be in error.  At this point I can only think that the error had to be with the Capt. Any thoughts anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: pwillitz</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure what the policy was at the time, but perhaps it was a rule that bombers landing at night or under adverse conditions would have to dump their bomb loads in order to lessen the possibility of a 
major explosion in the event of a landing mishap.
True, there was not damage to the aircraft, but perhaps they were following procedures when they dumped the bomb load.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure what the policy was at the time, but perhaps it was a rule that bombers landing at night or under adverse conditions would have to dump their bomb loads in order to lessen the possibility of a<br />
major explosion in the event of a landing mishap.<br />
True, there was not damage to the aircraft, but perhaps they were following procedures when they dumped the bomb load.</p>
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		<title>By: ramsay</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]JAGwriter said: &quot;AZditz said: “So the pilot turned back, dumping their bombs into the Mediterranean Sea.
Is there such a thing as a `pure’ sea or ocean?”


I wouldn’t worry about the Med.  It’s 2.5 million square kilometers with an average depth of 1500 meters.  A B-24 bomb load would’ve created about as much contamination as tossing a hand grenade in the Persian Gulf.  Just imagine the nasty stuff belched into the world’s oceans from undersea volcanoes.
Besides, the bombs would likely detonate on impact; better there than in the belly of The Lady upon ditching.  Also, Lt. Hatton needed to lighten the load and conserve fuel.
As a pilot I can’t imagine being in that situation.
It was a sad ending for a courageous crew and a mighty aircraft.&quot;[/quote]

If they were able to make it ~400 miles past their destination before running out of fuel I dont think they needed to lose the bomb&#039;s weight to have enough fuel to make the trip; even though they flew a longer distance than they expected, because of the winds that blew them off course.

You say its better that the bombs explode in the water than in the plane upon ditching but they werent expecting to ditch. They were expecting to make it back to the base so why not save the bombs for the future?

Simply because the earth spews into the oceans does not mean humans need to. Two &quot;wrongs&quot; dont make a right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]JAGwriter said: &#8220;AZditz said: “So the pilot turned back, dumping their bombs into the Mediterranean Sea.<br />
Is there such a thing as a `pure’ sea or ocean?”</p>
<p>I wouldn’t worry about the Med.  It’s 2.5 million square kilometers with an average depth of 1500 meters.  A B-24 bomb load would’ve created about as much contamination as tossing a hand grenade in the Persian Gulf.  Just imagine the nasty stuff belched into the world’s oceans from undersea volcanoes.<br />
Besides, the bombs would likely detonate on impact; better there than in the belly of The Lady upon ditching.  Also, Lt. Hatton needed to lighten the load and conserve fuel.<br />
As a pilot I can’t imagine being in that situation.<br />
It was a sad ending for a courageous crew and a mighty aircraft.&#8221;[/quote]</p>
<p>If they were able to make it ~400 miles past their destination before running out of fuel I dont think they needed to lose the bomb&#8217;s weight to have enough fuel to make the trip; even though they flew a longer distance than they expected, because of the winds that blew them off course.</p>
<p>You say its better that the bombs explode in the water than in the plane upon ditching but they werent expecting to ditch. They were expecting to make it back to the base so why not save the bombs for the future?</p>
<p>Simply because the earth spews into the oceans does not mean humans need to. Two &#8220;wrongs&#8221; dont make a right.</p>
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		<title>By: ramsay</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last paragraph says &quot;The remains of the eight crewmembers which were found&quot;. If you read the article it says all nine were found. Which is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last paragraph says &#8220;The remains of the eight crewmembers which were found&#8221;. If you read the article it says all nine were found. Which is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Donone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 15:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be interested to know that I have photo&#039;s of Lady Be Good on my website that were taken in the last couple of years. I have more (inside and out) that will be posted during the next two weeks.
The LBG is now in Tobruk, Libya where it is un-ceremoniously dumped.
I also cover the Bardia Mural which you may find damn interesting.
http://www.don-simmonds.co.uk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be interested to know that I have photo&#8217;s of Lady Be Good on my website that were taken in the last couple of years. I have more (inside and out) that will be posted during the next two weeks.<br />
The LBG is now in Tobruk, Libya where it is un-ceremoniously dumped.<br />
I also cover the Bardia Mural which you may find damn interesting.<br />
<a href="http://www.don-simmonds.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.don-simmonds.co.uk</a></p>
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		<title>By: pwillitz</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a 60 year old former New Yorker who has been living in California for the past 24 years.  When I was in the 5th(?) grade, there was a LOOK or LIFE magazine with a photo layout on the story of finding the crew of The Lady Be Good.  I recall the photos of American flags on the ground, covering the remains of a number of the crewmen.  I was fascinated to say the least.  
As I recall, the US group that finally got to the plane found a thermos of coffee that was, according to them, still good.
The story stayed in my mind for years and while at a flea market here in California, I picked up a copy of a book on the subject.  The entries from the diaries were heart wrenching.
Then a discovery.  A friend here in Ca had the same name as one of the crew members, John Woravka!  When I next spoke with John I mentioned the plane, story, same name, etc.  His response floored me!  Yes, it was his uncle who was the bombardier and he (my friend) was named after him.
As sad as the story is, John&#039;s family felt that John Woravka, the bombardier, was fortunate that he did not have to suffer like the other crew members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a 60 year old former New Yorker who has been living in California for the past 24 years.  When I was in the 5th(?) grade, there was a LOOK or LIFE magazine with a photo layout on the story of finding the crew of The Lady Be Good.  I recall the photos of American flags on the ground, covering the remains of a number of the crewmen.  I was fascinated to say the least.<br />
As I recall, the US group that finally got to the plane found a thermos of coffee that was, according to them, still good.<br />
The story stayed in my mind for years and while at a flea market here in California, I picked up a copy of a book on the subject.  The entries from the diaries were heart wrenching.<br />
Then a discovery.  A friend here in Ca had the same name as one of the crew members, John Woravka!  When I next spoke with John I mentioned the plane, story, same name, etc.  His response floored me!  Yes, it was his uncle who was the bombardier and he (my friend) was named after him.<br />
As sad as the story is, John&#8217;s family felt that John Woravka, the bombardier, was fortunate that he did not have to suffer like the other crew members.</p>
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