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		<title>By: Anthropositor</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/the-solitude-of-alexander-selkirk/#comment-20473</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthropositor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are solitudes of more than one kind.  The first time I escaped from the Presbyterian kingdom into which I was born, and in which the King was not God, but his anointed representative, I felt a greater solitude than I had ever experienced.  Having always felt quite alien to those around me, a trait not uncommon among preacher&#039;s children, I was still singularly unprepared for my sense of total isolation.

I had made my escape on a bicycle, a one-speed with fat tires.  My father was no longer a minister, having been not quite defrocked.  But he was still a dangerous king from my perspective.  I had, in my entire lifetime of twelve years, heard continuously of God, had heard countless ceremonial prayers,  (indeed, I never heard my father pray once from the heart, even on his deathbed when I was a half century old) but I had never heard a compelling reason to believe, which did not evaporate when thought caught up with turbulent emotions.

I certainly had no thought of God as I pedaled up and down the seemingly endless hills of Pacific Coast Highway heading to Mexico, more than a hundred miles distant.  It took a few more attempts and two more years before I made it into Mexico.

But this first attempt affected me quite profoundly.  Isolation had never been strange to me, but this sense of solitude and lonliness was of an almost unbearable intensity, even with passersby in clear view in all the cars that traveled by me on that highway.

So I conversed with Chuckie almost continuously.  Chuckie was my friend.  He was quite a help.  He may have been invisible, but I knew in my mind&#039;s eye what he looked like.  And even his voice was very much like mine.  I knew that he would stay with me.

So it was quite a surprise, when I was arrested two days later, during a predawn visit to a donut shop in Oceanside, with Mexico tantalizingly close, that Chuckie abandoned me.  I missed him but I couldn&#039;t really blame him.  He just couldn&#039;t be around my dad.  I sort of thought maybe when I escaped again, I&#039;d run into him, but I never did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are solitudes of more than one kind.  The first time I escaped from the Presbyterian kingdom into which I was born, and in which the King was not God, but his anointed representative, I felt a greater solitude than I had ever experienced.  Having always felt quite alien to those around me, a trait not uncommon among preacher&#8217;s children, I was still singularly unprepared for my sense of total isolation.</p>
<p>I had made my escape on a bicycle, a one-speed with fat tires.  My father was no longer a minister, having been not quite defrocked.  But he was still a dangerous king from my perspective.  I had, in my entire lifetime of twelve years, heard continuously of God, had heard countless ceremonial prayers,  (indeed, I never heard my father pray once from the heart, even on his deathbed when I was a half century old) but I had never heard a compelling reason to believe, which did not evaporate when thought caught up with turbulent emotions.</p>
<p>I certainly had no thought of God as I pedaled up and down the seemingly endless hills of Pacific Coast Highway heading to Mexico, more than a hundred miles distant.  It took a few more attempts and two more years before I made it into Mexico.</p>
<p>But this first attempt affected me quite profoundly.  Isolation had never been strange to me, but this sense of solitude and lonliness was of an almost unbearable intensity, even with passersby in clear view in all the cars that traveled by me on that highway.</p>
<p>So I conversed with Chuckie almost continuously.  Chuckie was my friend.  He was quite a help.  He may have been invisible, but I knew in my mind&#8217;s eye what he looked like.  And even his voice was very much like mine.  I knew that he would stay with me.</p>
<p>So it was quite a surprise, when I was arrested two days later, during a predawn visit to a donut shop in Oceanside, with Mexico tantalizingly close, that Chuckie abandoned me.  I missed him but I couldn&#8217;t really blame him.  He just couldn&#8217;t be around my dad.  I sort of thought maybe when I escaped again, I&#8217;d run into him, but I never did.</p>
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		<title>By: PudgeDiesel</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/the-solitude-of-alexander-selkirk/#comment-20143</link>
		<dc:creator>PudgeDiesel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, just started reading this sight today. Love it! Great DI article. 

Note: The word &quot;bible&quot; is a noun &quot;the sacred writings of any religion&quot;, and in this context is not capitalized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, just started reading this sight today. Love it! Great DI article. </p>
<p>Note: The word &#8220;bible&#8221; is a noun &#8220;the sacred writings of any religion&#8221;, and in this context is not capitalized.</p>
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		<title>By: K8theGr8</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/the-solitude-of-alexander-selkirk/#comment-20142</link>
		<dc:creator>K8theGr8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought that book was fictional... guess not.</description>
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		<title>By: Zeavos</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/the-solitude-of-alexander-selkirk/#comment-18780</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeavos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the really interesting article. I had heard that Crusoe was based on a real person, but I never knew any details. (Only comments relative to the article&#039;s topic should be posted.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the really interesting article. I had heard that Crusoe was based on a real person, but I never knew any details. (Only comments relative to the article&#8217;s topic should be posted.)</p>
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		<title>By: tarteauxpommes</title>
		<link>http://www.damninteresting.com/the-solitude-of-alexander-selkirk/#comment-18702</link>
		<dc:creator>tarteauxpommes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote] Jeffrey93 said: &quot;It&#039;s a joke people... I didn&#039;t honestly think about how or where I&#039;d de-flower an innocent goat.  I wonder if Selkirk&#039;s marriages were so short lived because he&#039;d continually bring up &quot;Ya know... I&#039;ve done goats that were better.&quot; &quot;[/quote]


*shiver* I didn&#039;t need that thought in my head.

Besides that, DI! Something new every update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote] Jeffrey93 said: &#8220;It&#8217;s a joke people&#8230; I didn&#8217;t honestly think about how or where I&#8217;d de-flower an innocent goat.  I wonder if Selkirk&#8217;s marriages were so short lived because he&#8217;d continually bring up &#8220;Ya know&#8230; I&#8217;ve done goats that were better.&#8221; &#8220;[/quote]</p>
<p>*shiver* I didn&#8217;t need that thought in my head.</p>
<p>Besides that, DI! Something new every update.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Rickard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Rickard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually own an original copy of that book by Woodes Rogers, published in 1711.  If anyone is interested in investing in antique books, we could talk.

Ted Rickard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually own an original copy of that book by Woodes Rogers, published in 1711.  If anyone is interested in investing in antique books, we could talk.</p>
<p>Ted Rickard</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey93</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]Inti said: &quot;There are some interesting links about the other guy, Pedro Serrano at:
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Serrano (SPANISH)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Serrano (ENGLISH)
If Selkirk was good at surviving in isolation, then Serrano was the master of masters. He leaved for 8 years in a small sand bank in the Caribbean with almost no vegetation or shelter, and no fresh water. However, he was not completely alone, being accompanied by another sailor three years after Serrano’s arrival to the island.
A map of the island where Serrano lived can be found at:
http://oceandots.com/atlantic/san-andres/serrana-bank.htm[/quote]

I thought Pedro Cerrano was a guy that played for the Cleveland Indians...he could hit fastballs a mile but could never connect with those pesky curve balls, even with Joeboo&#039;s help.&lt;p&gt;
I think something like this would be fun and you could probably charge people to do it.  It didn&#039;t sound like there was much for predators on the island, if you could re-create a shorter experience like this I am sure people would pay to do it.  Here&#039;s an island....here are some limited supplies.....now go survive for a week or two.  Of course, you would need a distress signal if the participant wanted out.  I thought about this idea when watching &#039;Unknown&#039;, all of these challenges and things that need to be done just to try to stay alive, you&#039;d completely forget about the typical stresses of the daily grind.....you wouldn&#039;t be worrying about the price of gas, or the new boss at work, or the credit card bill.  It&#039;d be all consuming and challenging, I&#039;d pay to do it.  It might take me a bit to be able to catch and slaughter a goat though.  As for the goat romance...I think I could go a week or two without resorting to that.  If I did though...I&#039;d make sure to do it on the edge of a cliff, you know....so the goat will push back to avoid falling to it&#039;s death.&lt;p&gt;
It&#039;s a joke people....I didn&#039;t honestly think about how or where I&#039;d de-flower an innocent goat.  I wonder if Selkirk&#039;s marriages were so short lived because he&#039;d continually bring up &quot;Ya know....I&#039;ve done goats that were better.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]Inti said: &#8220;There are some interesting links about the other guy, Pedro Serrano at:<br />
<a href="http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Serrano" rel="nofollow">http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Serrano</a> (SPANISH)<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Serrano" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Serrano</a> (ENGLISH)<br />
If Selkirk was good at surviving in isolation, then Serrano was the master of masters. He leaved for 8 years in a small sand bank in the Caribbean with almost no vegetation or shelter, and no fresh water. However, he was not completely alone, being accompanied by another sailor three years after Serrano’s arrival to the island.<br />
A map of the island where Serrano lived can be found at:<br />
<a href="http://oceandots.com/atlantic/san-andres/serrana-bank.htm/quote" rel="nofollow">http://oceandots.com/atlantic/san-andres/serrana-bank.htm/quote</a></p>
<p>I thought Pedro Cerrano was a guy that played for the Cleveland Indians&#8230;he could hit fastballs a mile but could never connect with those pesky curve balls, even with Joeboo&#8217;s help.
<p>
I think something like this would be fun and you could probably charge people to do it.  It didn&#8217;t sound like there was much for predators on the island, if you could re-create a shorter experience like this I am sure people would pay to do it.  Here&#8217;s an island&#8230;.here are some limited supplies&#8230;..now go survive for a week or two.  Of course, you would need a distress signal if the participant wanted out.  I thought about this idea when watching &#8216;Unknown&#8217;, all of these challenges and things that need to be done just to try to stay alive, you&#8217;d completely forget about the typical stresses of the daily grind&#8230;..you wouldn&#8217;t be worrying about the price of gas, or the new boss at work, or the credit card bill.  It&#8217;d be all consuming and challenging, I&#8217;d pay to do it.  It might take me a bit to be able to catch and slaughter a goat though.  As for the goat romance&#8230;I think I could go a week or two without resorting to that.  If I did though&#8230;I&#8217;d make sure to do it on the edge of a cliff, you know&#8230;.so the goat will push back to avoid falling to it&#8217;s death.</p>
<p>
It&#8217;s a joke people&#8230;.I didn&#8217;t honestly think about how or where I&#8217;d de-flower an innocent goat.  I wonder if Selkirk&#8217;s marriages were so short lived because he&#8217;d continually bring up &#8220;Ya know&#8230;.I&#8217;ve done goats that were better.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: pyrhho</title>
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		<dc:creator>pyrhho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]Inti said: &quot;I wonder how many people currently live on the Island.&quot;[/quote]

According to Wikipedia, about 633.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Fern%C3%A1ndez_Islands</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]Inti said: &#8220;I wonder how many people currently live on the Island.&#8221;[/quote]</p>
<p>According to Wikipedia, about 633.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Fern%C3%A1ndez_Islands" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Fern%C3%A1ndez_Islands</a></p>
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		<title>By: Web</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing article!  DI and new!  I also had no idea that Robinson Crusoe was based in fact.

P.S.  When referring to the religious text, the word &quot;Bible&quot; is a proper noun and should be capitalized.  It&#039;s English, not religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing article!  DI and new!  I also had no idea that Robinson Crusoe was based in fact.</p>
<p>P.S.  When referring to the religious text, the word &#8220;Bible&#8221; is a proper noun and should be capitalized.  It&#8217;s English, not religion.</p>
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		<title>By: pogmog</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]coolandDI said: &quot;Also there is only one God.&quot;[/quote]
You complain that people are belittling your beliefs then so brazenly snub other beliefs. What has this got to do with a man marooned on a deserted island surviving for over four years? 

Excellent article by the way. It&#039;s a shame that many people will probably never know the truth behind this amazing story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]coolandDI said: &#8220;Also there is only one God.&#8221;[/quote]<br />
You complain that people are belittling your beliefs then so brazenly snub other beliefs. What has this got to do with a man marooned on a deserted island surviving for over four years? </p>
<p>Excellent article by the way. It&#8217;s a shame that many people will probably never know the truth behind this amazing story.</p>
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