Comments on: Transforming the Earth

By: Rodger Wrighthead

Rodger Wrighthead — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:17:15 +0000

DI, but just no. Complete scifiery.

By: alex212

alex212 — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:17:55 +0000

The author says that as the Earth shrinks, it’s gravity would weaken. Correct me if I am wrong, but the shrinking process itself should exhale energy that would make gravity increase terribly and so, as a consequence, speed the time up, since time is none but gravitons of this system…
If I am wrong and the gravity is to weaken, how are we to reconstruct the time for the new world. No gravity=no time. It’s hard to imagine what could happen to us in a time coordinates shift.
And one more thing. This world shelters creatures other than humans. It does not belong only to us, but also to THE OLD ONES. They are deeply involved in geomagnetic energy and time control. They would not let us ruin it all just like that. Sometimes they speed up scientific progress of humans, but they could slow it down as well. Then, we’d be at the 0 point again.

By: Mirage_GSM

Mirage_GSM — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:33:09 +0000

[quote]ChrisW75 said: “Also, driving fast in the wrong direction would supposedly cause you to lose “gravity”?? (that’s an interesting thought, if you drove fast enough in the opposite direction so that you were stationary in space, would you then be in free fall? If so, goodbye car racing…)”[/quote]
I haven’t dont the math, but you’d have to drive VERY fast to achieve that. ;-)
[quote]Burning said: “One of the most obvious problems to me is that it’s naively Utopian. The kind of peace envisioned in John Lennon’s “Imagine” is an impossibility. Any one with eyes can see that the world is fraught with problems of human hatred, violence, selfishness, discrimination, and conflict… A leopard cannot change its stripes, and humanity at a whole will never be able to find a perfect form of self governance that could achieve such a wonder as the Globus Cassus.”[/quote]
What a sad way of viewing the future, when the last 60 years have shown us that is possible for nations that were once enemies to live together in peace. up to 1945, Germany and France had been in an on and off state of war since the times of Napoleon, and today they (and more than a dozen other european nations) are as close as any nations have been in history.
I do believe that what has been achieved in europe can be achieved anywhere on the globe. The coditions for that to happen are great but not insurmountable. Also they would go widely off topic for this thread, so I will leave it at that.

By: dentarthurdent

dentarthurdent — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:58:18 +0000

Seems to me that Christian Waldvogel was beaten to it by MWC922-dwellers…

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070416.html

By: adehp

adehp — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:33:36 +0000

Once again, a DI idea. However, one of the ideas that might work wouldn’t even look outside our earth. Why don’t we terraform the ocean floor? It would use hydroelectricity to power everything, the only problem would be the intense gravity, and the water pressure. To eliminate the problem of water pressure, a geodesic dome might be a good idea. However, the material used would have to be extremely flexible, as earthquakes are more frequent and more powerful. Gravity might not be all that much of an issue. Transportation to and from this dome could be conducted by submarines, or even a tunnel-like passage way that would have to be sealed on both sides to prevent any possible leaking. Other than those issues, I don’t see any problems with just living on the ocean floor.

By: Anthropositor

Anthropositor — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:33:46 +0000

Having worked as a production manager in an aerospace supply company during our original moon program, I was exposed to some compellingly idiotic actions increasing the costs and reducing the probabilities of success in our first efforts to land a man on the moon.

In spite of that, I feel great pride in having played a tiny part in the ultimate success in the first human departure from the Earth, landing on another astronomical body, albeit not even a quarter of a million miles away, and completing the round trip back to Earth. That project took about a decade from start to finish. We sacrificed mightily and the rewards have certainly been commensurate with our efforts. Still, we skirted many disasters and had some as well along the way. Good luck outweighed the bad.

It is hubris in the extreme to consider such a fantasy project which would require such a long time frame and have so many insurmountable problems. We have not even shown the ability to sort out regional and political differences on the globe as it exists.

There are solutions for mankind in space. We should be tackling short term projects like our original moon program. And we should do them in some sort of reasonable order. In spite of some notable exceptions, NASA set some priorities very well, particularly with the examination of the outer solar system.

Priorities are the issue. And costs. Each effort we make in space should not be a bottomless pit of expense, without fairly immediate potential profits clearly on the agenda. Sure, the spinoffs from the knowledge explosion that attended the space effort represent great profit. But the public really doesn’t clearly associate these benefits with the space program. It is those potential profits which will drive a successful effort to colonize and utilize the solar system. This is why private enterprise MUST play the pivotal role.

The first step is the mining of the Amore (Earth approaching) asteroids. I will stop now and discuss this further with anyone who has a serious interest in such matters at
eurekaideasunlimited.blogspot.com.

Anyone with something interesting to say may comment on any thread, current or in the archives. I will paste it into an appropriate new essay in the furtherance of starting a serious series of ongoing conversations on this important subject.

It is heartening to note that comments are still being made on this rather far fetched idea of an expanded world, nearly three months later, and that so many of them show thought.

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By: Purple Helmet

Purple Helmet — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:54:16 +0000

I’m just going to smoke some of the current Earth’s good green plants and help to over-populate the planet by doing what comes naturally.

By: Leodelion

Leodelion — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:54:01 +0000

One problem is the lack of redundancy in this design. I’d rather many independent mini-worlds, each fashioned around a neutronium core to provide gravity.

Such as the world “Kobold” in Larry Niven’s novel, “Protector”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protector_(novel)

By: Alx_xlA

Alx_xlA — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 03:09:15 +0000

[quote]Silverhill said: “Not enough mass available there. (Larry Niven’s characters used a whole Jupiter-mass to build the Ringworld.) Also, if you want centrifugal gravity (approximately Earth-normal), there is nothing strong enough to hold the ring together….”[/quote]

You’re no fun.