Isak Dinesen (a male name) was a pen name of the Danish writer Karen Blixen. And yes, she got syphilis from her unfaithful husband, Baron Bror von Blixen-Finecke. She was treated with (among other things) mercury, and never fully recovered.

I believe myself to be a victim of nonconsensual experimentation. Unfortunately this has not been exposed yet. The monsters behind my protocol let me have just enough evidence to start of lifetime of wading through a justice system that is against me. The fact that they left some evidence indicates that there is an interest in how evidence is collected and presented. The fact I’ve witnessed crimes with decoying also indicates that this is part of the experiment.

I have “communications interferences.” So I post, but I know that it’s not going to get anywhere. The best a victim can do is to RUN to the nearest (or farthest) country that has strong laws against involuntary human experimentation and in favor of human subjects. My personal locus of control remains intact. My locus of control for having any impact on closing off the federal loopholes that *still* exist and allow for extremely vile and disgusting experimentation is *zero*

I suggest to any apologist that they consider for a moment that victims are chosen for their vulnerability and that they are intentionally made vulnerable for experiments to continue. I despise the apologists as much as I despise the experimenters and those in government who are aware of what went on/what’s going on and have made a choice to do nothing about it.

For the people who really care – look the reason why stronger federal laws protecting human subjects can’t get passed Congress after Congress. Then help me find the country where my small child and I would live the most peacefully.

Many think that if all religions were outlawed, our world would be a better place. I tend to think that anarchy would prevail, not utopia. Give two babies one toy and see how they play together. Or read flaming posts. We are wired towards selfishness, not selflessness. Mankind is not naturally good.”[/quote]

I definitely disagree with your bleak outlook on mankind. Yes mankind’s first instinct is self preservation, but we all (Or at least a large percentage of us) have been wired to feel empathy for our fellow man. As to your prison comment; yes, religion is great on a PERSONAL level, but some people can’t seem to keep it a personal thing. I think the reason christianity can save people like that is because is because these people weren’t taught a moral code to begin with, and I think it’s a shame that they need a religion to develop one, because really, most people don’t. I heard about a study done once (I heard this from my dad but I can’t remember where he heard it, so don’t quote me on this because my facts could be mixed up) by some of the major world charities and they found aetheists to be the most general donors. (I’m not an aetheist myself, I believe there is a greater power, God, whatever you want to call it, I just haven’t bought into any religion.)

Ultimately, people are able to convince themselves and be convinced that something is right and wrong. No action is inherintly either, it is only after a person has weighed it in does it inherit one of these properties. So to say that God deems something right or wrong is illogical in my beliefs. A God I believe in has no breakable laws. If a law is breakable then I always see it as a law of man, not a law of God. E=mc2 is more a law of God than anything talking about love, forgiveness, or punishment. [/quote]
If God was a being that was created by your whim, then your statement could have some bearing on reality. He is not defined by your whim. Also, Moral laws are not broken….they’re trespassed. The purpose of this life isn’t to be controlled and forced to follow all of God’s laws…its the opposite. Its to show free agency. Every man is agent unto himself to choose whether to do good or to do evil. In the end, trespassing Gods laws leads to a permanent consequence…that’s pretty darn unbreakable. You are free to do as you choose (agency) but not free to choose the consequence (accountability).

E=mc2 is not a law of God nor of Man. Its an equation that attempts to reflect observed behavior. It will remain a “scientific” law in science textbooks until our observations show that it needs to be updated. Thus, the scientific “LAW” is not only breakable…it was flawed in the first place.

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What can you say about morality that hasnt been argued over already? Right and wrong are really perspective based. Groups of people may not always weight the same facts the same way. So a moral code is bound to be broken. [/quote]
Right and Wrong are universal constants. What changes is the individuals understanding of what is right and wrong…and just because some ninny misunderstands what right and wrong is, doesn’t mean it changes what actually IS right and IS wrong. If object X = certain mass it is always that mass…..on earth it will weigh so much and on the moon it will weigh a different amount…yet it has the same mass. So it is with right and wrong. Whats right is always right and what is wrong is always wrong. People THINK that the weight of a choice makes a difference.

[quote]So relating back to what I already said, moral codes aren’t the work of God because they can be broken. Besides, what kind’ve God has breakable laws? A not very powerful one I think. Makes God more like the government…”[/quote]

This last bit is the best load of Tripe. The laws are working perfectly. LOL. Go break a moral law all you want. You have your agency. When the eternity of being held accountable for breaking those laws keeps rolling by for…say…and eternity, you will not doubt the power or truth of his moral laws.

ABOUT the article. Its DI for sure! Cannot believe that people would treat any other individual this way. Even a religious Zealot with misplaced ideals should at least believe in repentance and forgiveness, redemption and the like. Some people come into contact with STD through NO fault of their own. The cure {treatment} should have been offered or at least advised that it was there.

The lesson that we should take away is this, Never, ever trust any physician or physician’s organisation to deal with issues of ethics, freedom (of the patient) or right to full participation in all aspect of medical care.

The disease lies dormant, infecting partners many years between each other. That does not in itself equal promiscuity. Doesn’t matter anyway..no innocent kid deserves crap like this.

ref.felix, you disgust me with holding up verses from the bible in an unthinking, cold manner.

What kind of person holds up a point so contrary to “good” just to support his opinion?

Ultimately, people are able to convince themselves and be convinced that something is right and wrong. No action is inherintly either, it is only after a person has weighed it in does it inherit one of these properties. So to say that God deems something right or wrong is illogical in my beliefs. A God I believe in has no breakable laws. If a law is breakable then I always see it as a law of man, not a law of God. E=mc2 is more a law of God than anything talking about love, forgiveness, or punishment.

What can you say about morality that hasnt been argued over already? Right and wrong are really perspective based. Groups of people may not always weight the same facts the same way. So a moral code is bound to be broken. So relating back to what I already said, moral codes aren’t the work of God because they can be broken. Besides, what kind’ve God has breakable laws? A not very powerful one I think. Makes God more like the government. Which would give me free reign to dump on it for things being crappy *thumbs up*.