Comments on: Baseball and the Physicists https://www.damninteresting.com/baseball-and-the-physicists/ Fascinating true stories from science, history, and psychology since 2005 Sun, 05 May 2019 13:53:07 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: JarvisLoop https://www.damninteresting.com/baseball-and-the-physicists/#comment-72782 Sun, 05 May 2019 13:53:07 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=520#comment-72782 Bill Malcolm:

It’s not that, as an American, I think that the world revolves around me.

It’s just that I don’t care what others think about me. I know that I am a good person, and I also prefer my country’s culture, as you prefer yours, I’m sure.

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By: Bill Malcolm https://www.damninteresting.com/baseball-and-the-physicists/#comment-46002 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 16:36:16 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=520#comment-46002 I’d dispute the hoary old theory that the baseball has been studied more than any other ball in sport. Americans thinking the world revolves around them again. The cricket ball has similar construction to the baseball and similarly dips and swings. There are Computational Fluid Dynamics studies of the cricket ball, not done by some amateur at home. I attribute the baseball thing being typical navel-gazing and the abject lack of knowledge most Americans exhibit about the rest of the world, even the state next door in my travels.

Just Google “cricket ball dynamics”. Well, well even NASA has studied the cricket ball! Now read down the rest of the page and see the scholarly articles. I’m not going to list them, because I’m too lazy. But if you have any curiosity whatsoever, google it. Then you won’t be one of the boorish Americans the world has to suffer.

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By: Shell https://www.damninteresting.com/baseball-and-the-physicists/#comment-39199 Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:25:21 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=520#comment-39199 A rising fastball doesn’t actually rise, it just doesn’t drop as quickly as the batter expects/wind tunnel tests prove a curveball really does curve.

Hmmm…which is it?

My father played fast pitch softball in the 1950s and ’60s when it was a popular sport for adults. He was a pitcher. After he left the game and I was in my teens we would play catch in the backyard and sometimes he would feel loose enough to “air it out” like he once had. He could make the ball curve up, down, left, or right (riser, drop, curve, screwball), and his knuckleball corkscrewed (as WolfManDragon mentioned) its way to the plate, then dropped and broke either left or right (never knew which) as it crossed the plate.

I remember reading a story, I think from the 1930s or ’40s, about a scientist who stated that a curveball doesn’t really curve, its appearing to is just an optical illusion. A major league pitcher of the era was asked what he thought of the assertion and replied, “If he’ll stand behind a tree sixty feet and six inches from me I’ll whomp him to death with an optical illusion.”

Great article and comments.

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By: Marian https://www.damninteresting.com/baseball-and-the-physicists/#comment-27260 Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:38:32 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=520#comment-27260 What is “baseball”? Is it some barbaric kind of cricket enjoyed by peasants in the colonies?

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By: RioGrandeValley https://www.damninteresting.com/baseball-and-the-physicists/#comment-25448 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 05:17:34 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=520#comment-25448 Is it better to be right handed than left handed? And would it make a difference if you were left brained or right brained. Or wet brained when it is really from dehydration? and does it even apply

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By: ShowerRockGod https://www.damninteresting.com/baseball-and-the-physicists/#comment-23962 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:12:42 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=520#comment-23962 Honestly, soccer has been kinda ruined for me by all the damn violence you see at every game. I’m not talking just about the riots that end up on clip shows. Even at a ‘normal’ game you gotta look out for goons who support the other team attacking you in the street! People in other contries just take it too damn seriously for my tastes. I even saw a newspaper from some South American country (Brazil I think) claiming that the ‘foot of Jesus’ came down and helped thier team during a game. That is some hardcore fandom my friends.

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By: Eliot https://www.damninteresting.com/baseball-and-the-physicists/#comment-16488 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:40:22 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=520#comment-16488 alipardiwala said: “Americans seem to think the world revolves around them. This article says baseball is the most scientifically studied, how the hell do you know? Football (‘Soccer’ as americans call it because football in america means american football which uses more ‘hands’ and ‘throwing’ than ‘foot’) is the worlds most popular sport, all of Europe, South America and Africa play the game as their primary sport, with the rest of the world playing it secondarily. even the players study every aspect of how to make the ball swing in the air. Cricket, which is played predominantly in the South Asian subcontinent and Oceana, is watched and studied by at least a billion people, which in case you didnt know, is 3 times as many people as there are in the USA. Even a taxi driver in India will know all the physics of cricket.

This reminds me of how the first world war was called a ‘world’ war even though there were only 6 countries fighting, Europe in those days considered themselves to be the entire world. It looks like its happening to america now. Whatever they think and do seems to be what goes. Get your facts and statistics right, consider the rest of the world before you come up with more stuff like this.”

Why do I come across so many raving diatribes on this subject? Nobody is disputing that soccer is the most popular sport in the world. After seeing all these pointless debates on whether soccer or football is the “correct” word, I am convinced that people will argue just about anything along nationalist boundaries. Believe or not, they’re both correct, so there’s no reason to get bent out of shape because somebody uses a different word than you.

I cannot verify the article’s claim that baseball is the world’s most studied sport, but I certainly wouldn’t count it out. There has been pretty massive research done not only on the physics of the game, but also involving statistical analysis. The last several years, baseball has really innovated the use of extensive advanced statistics, and that has started to spread to other sports including soccer as seen below.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0,,2002909,00.html

It is also in baseball where fantasy sports originated and various medical procedures have been pioneered.

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By: WolfManDragon https://www.damninteresting.com/baseball-and-the-physicists/#comment-6550 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 19:20:09 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=520#comment-6550 I love the section of the article that says “All of this study of the physics of baseball date back to the 1950’s when wind tunnel experiments proved that curve balls really do curve.” I’m a science major and it still amazes me how many scientists have to see the simplest thing proved in the lab to believe it.

For the record, there is such a thing as a rising fast ball. It only takes getting hit by one to make a beleiver out of one.

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By: del_b_vista https://www.damninteresting.com/baseball-and-the-physicists/#comment-4852 Mon, 08 May 2006 22:41:15 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=520#comment-4852 Anthony Kendall said: “A physicist investigating the science of baseball is very likely doing so in his spare time. Academic scientists really are usually “under contract” to produce research related to the grants and other sources of funding they receive. I doubt that there are many grants to physicists related to baseball research.

I think a physicist ought to have time to his or her diversions, just like everyone else. After all, perhaps those physicists are not fond of gardening or cooking, and need something to do in the evenings. During the day they cannot because they are far too busy trying to find that Theory of Everything.”

Actually, there is funding for studying things like this from the sporting goods industry. My college’s aerospace engineering department had a contract to study aluminum baseball and softball bats. They built a gun to fire balls at bats and developed ways to study the impacts.

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By: Drakvil https://www.damninteresting.com/baseball-and-the-physicists/#comment-4550 Wed, 03 May 2006 18:27:49 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=520#comment-4550 I have heard that many pit crews in auto racing are made up mostly of physics grad students and the like (don’t recall the exact category – NASCAR, Indy, formula-1, etc.)

As for the point the world revolves around, that would generally be the point where the speaker is standing. To each person (in a broad, general sense) the world revolves around where they live. The exceptions are the people who are trying to accomplish things in parts of the world where they are not present. In India, I imagine the world halfway revolves around India, and halfway around the U.S., considering how many phone tech and customer support centers have been outsourced there… they are on the phone with the U.S. for a huge part of their waking hours (the people working those jobs there, not all people in India).

Likewise, there are parts of China where the world revolves around Japan.

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