Comments on: Ground Effect Vehicles https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/ground-effect-vehicles/ Fascinating true stories from science, history, and psychology since 2005 Fri, 27 Aug 2021 17:56:58 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: JarvisLoop https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/ground-effect-vehicles/#comment-73577 Fri, 06 Nov 2020 01:11:12 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=523#comment-73577 It is now 14 years later. Did anything ever happen with the Pelican?

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By: Islander https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/ground-effect-vehicles/#comment-39478 Sun, 28 Dec 2014 09:50:07 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=523#comment-39478

chipchenry said: “Boeing is likely creating this aircraft to take advantage of the Arctic Sea being ice free by 2012 to sell for cargo transport. When the seas are open, the Russian Natural Gas plant being built on the other side of the expected ice free sea will be a hop away, and with that tonnage of cargo capacity, this type of plane would be a better cost effective and safer method to transport the natural gas and/or fuel. There’ll also be a boom n standard cargo. As a hybrid with high altitude capabilities, it could also make the trips during high seas negating the ground effect it’s built to operate in.

Alternatively it could be used to transport military personnel and equipment.
They’d use turboprops because they’re the most efficient engine available and can be configured to burn several different types of fuel.”

Not as efficient as a turbo diesel with high pressure electronic multiple injection. Can one buy an ‘off the shelf’ kit to re-configure popular turboprop engines for different fuels I wonder? Also, would the aircraft type certificate allow it, it is a major modification to the aircraft and the authorities are very reluctant to ‘meddle’ with type certificates, as a lot of them only hold up because nobody meddles. On the topic of Arctic sea ice, in my imagination the polar ice cap is pretty flat so would suit a GEV right now. If, in fact, the ice does melt, the Japs would build a 500,000 tonne gas tanker, within a month, for half the price of the GEV. Man it with a Filipino crew and paint ‘CHEEP GAS’ on the side, job done!

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By: The Islander https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/ground-effect-vehicles/#comment-39476 Sat, 27 Dec 2014 10:29:28 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=523#comment-39476

Alx_xlA said: “A say, no need S said: “eeewww,,,ussr russia plane is sooo ugly and low / no life,,,
too much show off to america,,,america still beat ussr russia,,,
america plane is the best plane in the world than ussr russia,,,
ussr russia is always COPY STEAL COPY STEAL from america idea,,,”
Don’t be a douche.
Brought to you by the international society for not being a douche.
As an aside, what about the Hughes H-4 Hercules (aka the Spruce Goose (even though it was made of birch, not spruce))? Many people claim it only flew as a result of ground effect. I did a science fair project on it. Got bored and didn’t finish, though.”

It didn’t matter to Hughes whether it flew or not, I think he was a philanthropist and provided years of work for his staff allowing them to buy houses and raise their families in comfort. In those days one could not hand out ‘Dosh’ to strangers without a project or a goal. A simple power to weight calculation would have revealed an inadequate performance right from the start. Also, I seem to remember Mr. Boeing was in the wood trade? ——— after that it gets a bit murky!

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By: The Islander https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/ground-effect-vehicles/#comment-39475 Sat, 27 Dec 2014 09:55:35 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=523#comment-39475

wileybot said: “Curious, how do these perform over rough or heavy swell seas?”

The average wave height in the North Atlantic is 2.6 m

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By: Phillip Faulkner https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/ground-effect-vehicles/#comment-38382 Sun, 15 Dec 2013 07:36:49 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=523#comment-38382 I would like for you aeronautical nuts to clear something up for me: at what point on the Pelican is it 20 ft. above the surface of the water? I notice that the plane has wing tips that point down, are the bottom of these tips 20 ft. above the water, or are they lower. If these wing-tips are lower than 20 ft. they would have a much better (or is worse?) chance of hitting the water. Right? And by the way, the most delicious pie in the world has a long name, here it is: Eagelbrand Lemon Meringue, Graham Cracker Crust, Pie Cherry Pie. And if you make this pie you will not be able to stop eating it and you will die. I have made these pies and I have been dead for quite some time, so I know what I am talking about.

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By: Vakulin https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/ground-effect-vehicles/#comment-26578 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:08:52 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=523#comment-26578 Why people looking at old development? I know a lot of a new, nice development of WIGs. The best one from my mind is: http://aquagen.ru/eng/planes/akvaplan/ But no one is writing about it or discussing. It is 2011 year, not Orlyonok that was done at 1986!!!! Let’s discuss modern things!

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By: chipchenry https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/ground-effect-vehicles/#comment-26323 Fri, 12 Nov 2010 03:07:48 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=523#comment-26323 Boeing is likely creating this aircraft to take advantage of the Arctic Sea being ice free by 2012 to sell for cargo transport. When the seas are open, the Russian Natural Gas plant being built on the other side of the expected ice free sea will be a hop away, and with that tonnage of cargo capacity, this type of plane would be a better cost effective and safer method to transport the natural gas and/or fuel. There’ll also be a boom n standard cargo. As a hybrid with high altitude capabilities, it could also make the trips during high seas negating the ground effect it’s built to operate in.

Alternatively it could be used to transport military personnel and equipment.

They’d use turboprops because they’re the most efficient engine available and can be configured to burn several different types of fuel.

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By: kasutt https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/ground-effect-vehicles/#comment-25627 Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:28:59 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=523#comment-25627 Wow! A good old-fashioned flame war. And about metrification, at that. ;) I’m a little late to the discussion – about three years – but altitudes have been measured in feet since the dawn of aviation. That august body known as ICAO would love to “harmonize” practices, but a century of cockpit discipline and a half-century of ATC terminology are formidable barriers. And yes, Americans come in two flavors with regard to systems metric: lots of us know both “The Metric System” and the English system; lots of us don’t know either one. Waesucks! (cf. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/waesucks).

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By: navroan https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/ground-effect-vehicles/#comment-24436 Tue, 05 May 2009 13:40:33 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=523#comment-24436 I would assume that since the pelican is a ‘hybrid’ it would fly like a normal plane when it approaches land, and then assume the high efficiency ground effect cruise after it gets many miles out.

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By: navroan https://www.damninteresting.com/curio/ground-effect-vehicles/#comment-24435 Tue, 05 May 2009 13:38:27 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=523#comment-24435 Now, I’m not a pilot, but a plane with a 492.12 ft (150m) wingspan flying 20 feet off the ground at any real speed would be a rather nerve wracking experience to fly. As a scale comparison, roughly the height at which your car is off the ground. =p If it became a reality, I’m sure in practice it would probably sit a little higher than that for safety… but there’s still that bird problem, especially as you approach land.

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