Comments on: The Plane That Flew Too Soon https://www.damninteresting.com/the-plane-that-flew-too-soon/ Fascinating true stories from science, history, and psychology since 2005 Fri, 23 Jun 2017 00:34:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: John1943 https://www.damninteresting.com/the-plane-that-flew-too-soon/#comment-72153 Fri, 23 Jun 2017 00:34:25 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=939#comment-72153 I lived just a couple of miles from the Filton factory where the Brabazon was built. I remember my mother taking my younger brother and I down to see it take off one day (I cannot remember if that was the maiden flight). I must have been about 6 or 8 years old at the time. Many years later, I was privileged to watch the maiden flight of Concorde 002 from the same runway. Both amazing aircraft, both amazing commercial failures.

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By: Les Boe https://www.damninteresting.com/the-plane-that-flew-too-soon/#comment-39080 Sat, 05 Jul 2014 03:03:56 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=939#comment-39080

USNSPARKS said: “After seeing some SR-71 posts I figured 2 true tales would be okay.

In his book, Sled Driver, SR-71 Blackbird pilot Brian Shul writes:
“I’ll always remember a certain radio exchange that occurred one day as
Walt (my back-seater) and I were screaming across Southern California 13
miles high. We were monitoring various radio transmissions from other
aircraft as we entered Los Angeles airspace. Though they didn’t really
control us, they did monitor our movement across their scope.
I heard a Cessna ask for a readout of its ground speed.”90 knots” Center
replied. Moments later, a Twin Beech required the same. “120 knots,”
Center answered. We weren’t the only ones proud of our ground speed that
day as almost instantly an F-18 smugly transmitted, “Ah, Center, Dusty
52 requests ground speed readout.” There was a slight pause, then the
response, “525 knots on the ground, Dusty.” Another silent pause.
As I was thinking to myself how ripe a situation this was, I heard a
familiar click of a radio transmission coming from my back-seater. It
was at that precise moment I realized Walt and I had become a real crew,
for we were both thinking in unison. “Center, Aspen 20, you got a ground
speed readout for us?” There was a longer than normal pause…. “Aspen,
I show 1,742 knots” (That’s about 2004.658 mph who don’t know)
No further inquiries were heard on that frequency.
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In another famous SR-71 story, Los Angeles Center reported receiving a
request for clearance to FL 600 (60,000ft). The incredulous controller,
with some disdain in his voice, asked, “How do you plan to get up to
60,000 feet?
The pilot (obviously a sled driver), responded, “We don’t plan to go up
to it; we plan to go down to it.” He was cleared.
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BTW, I have a small text file filled with numerous hilarious aviation stories.
If you’d like a copy post your EMail address here or Email me. Just add
“@COMCAST.NET” to my ID above. Please put “aviation humor” in subj line so I
don’t trash it as spam.
Best Regards.”

I would enjoy the aviation stories. Tks, Les

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By: bill https://www.damninteresting.com/the-plane-that-flew-too-soon/#comment-38951 Thu, 29 May 2014 04:47:47 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=939#comment-38951

Richard Solensky said: “The Post-WWII era was a great one if you were an aircraft designer. Anything seemed possible, and there was plenty of money available to try!

The U.S. Navy was worried about supersonic fighters taking off and landing on aircraft carriers – so they commissioned the Convair F2Y Sea Dart – a supersonic sea plane! Also from the free-wheeling minds at Convair was the XFY-1 “Pogo”, a VTOL craft. “So?” you say? This one took off standing on its tail, pointing straight up! To land the thing, you needed a rear-view mirror! Then there was the McDonnell F-85/X-85 “Goblin”, a jet fighter that was to be carried aboard a bomber and dropped from a “trapeeze” as needed, and then snagged out of mid-air when the fighting was over.
All of these worked in test flights…”

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The WW2 German aircraft designers and builders had VTOLs designed using jet propulsion. One named Lippich was far ahead of the rest with his delta wing designs and went to work for Convair after the war.
The Goblin was the jet powered version of a portable fighter escort that was developed in the ’30’s for blimps. The Goblin was the most hideous aircraft ever designed.

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By: Passenger https://www.damninteresting.com/the-plane-that-flew-too-soon/#comment-38673 Fri, 21 Mar 2014 03:00:32 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=939#comment-38673 This reminds me of 3 similar American late-1940s projects for huge double-decker propeller airliners. These were the Lockheed Constitution, the original Douglas DC7, and the North American C-49 (I believe) which was a passenger variant of the huge B36 bomber. All 3 of these designs had prototypes built for USAF, which served as military transports, and all 3 were encouraged by PanAm Airlines which placed tentative orders. But, PanAm soon decided the transatlantic passenger market was too small to justify, and cancelled the orders.

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By: Ralphie https://www.damninteresting.com/the-plane-that-flew-too-soon/#comment-38356 Sat, 07 Dec 2013 10:38:45 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=939#comment-38356 Interesting how many British projects post-war were ruined by Great Britain’s greatest drawback – the class system. With the exception of the Viscount, British manufacturers, run largely by upper class twits in management or government, designed aircraft to transport the upper classes and/or exclusively for their own airlines’ limited needs; the USA designed aircraft to transport the masses and for the needs of airlines across the world. It’s interesting to speculate on how Britain’s aviation industry would have prospered with the American approach. Britain’s aircraft industry was years ahead of the USA in technical innovation, but the Americans were skilled marketers and ruthlessly ambitious – a combination the poor old Brits simply couldn’t understand or imitate.

Brabazon 2 was designed for turboprops, with economy and trouble-free operation in mind. I wonder how it would have gone if it had been built and configured for say 250 passengers in all-economy.

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By: harveybristolboy https://www.damninteresting.com/the-plane-that-flew-too-soon/#comment-27688 Mon, 21 Oct 2013 06:11:44 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=939#comment-27688 [quote]conman32 said: “Did airports around the world have enough runway space to support such a behemoth at the time???”[/quote]

I do not know – But my early life was spent next to the Runway in Filton, Bristol – where the Brabazon was built. My parents told me that the runway had to be lengthened at Filton to accommodate the Brabazon (ne 1947)

[quote]jjwoods said: “I wander where it is now.”[/quote]

None of the Brabazons were saved – they were broken up and scrapped. The Undercarriage assy may be inspected in Filton, Nr Bristol England.

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By: harveybristolboy https://www.damninteresting.com/the-plane-that-flew-too-soon/#comment-27687 Mon, 21 Oct 2013 06:08:25 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=939#comment-27687 [quote]conman32 said: “Did airports around the world have enough runway space to support such a behemoth at the time???”[/quote]

I do not know – But my early life was spent next to the Runway in Filton, Bristol – where the Brabazon was built. My parents told me that the runway had to be lengthened at Filton to accommodate the Brabazon (ne 1947)

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By: Grandmaster Ramrod https://www.damninteresting.com/the-plane-that-flew-too-soon/#comment-26947 Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:47:11 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=939#comment-26947 I just registered today to say two things:

1. Love the website. All the articles I’ve read so far are indeed Damn Interesting! Keep up the fine work!

2. I live in the UK, on a housing estate that is near the former site of a RAF base. All the street names have some sort of aeronautical name, for example Barnes Wallis Close, Sunderland Close etc. At the back of the estate, there is a road that leads nowhere (I think there may have been a time when expansion of the estate was on the cards, never happened) and the road is called Brabazon Way. Useless information I know, but I thought it was at least semi-interesting…

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By: ambrosen https://www.damninteresting.com/the-plane-that-flew-too-soon/#comment-26423 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:57:09 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=939#comment-26423 Amazingly, there’s some footage of this flying that was recently found: worth a look at http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8313000/8313848.stm

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By: traveingwoods https://www.damninteresting.com/the-plane-that-flew-too-soon/#comment-23048 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:51:16 +0000 https://www.damninteresting.com/?p=939#comment-23048 were the run ways even long enough?

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